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I know that you guys want to express your opinions, and things looked
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want to say without doing the political back, and forth. Just don't want
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If you have something you want to say, or add that's great. Or if you
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or going at each other.

Please understand guys, and thanks so much ahead of time.
 

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I know that you guys want to express your opinions, and things looked
to be getting more on track. But let's maybe just say what we, or you
want to say without doing the political back, and forth. Just don't want
to see you guys getting too personal, and want to try, and keep this topic
open without deleting anything, or closing it down entirely.

If you have something you want to say, or add that's great. Or if you
have a link, or video, it's fine. As long as you stay away from attacking,
or going at each other.

Please understand guys, and thanks so much ahead of time.
Indeed! This whole Covid-19 situation is getting a lot of people hot under the collar, being stuck indoors isn't great (I've had to for 7 weeks now!) it's a lot of extra stress on top of our normal lives. But we will pull through! This too shall pass :)

 

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Bogus Trump hate TDS buffoon video, blames it all on Trump, deflects the blame from the Chinese Commies who unleashed this on the world!

as far as Hydroxychloroquine, my Sons father-in-law had Covid with pneumonia and was prescribed this drug and survived, so did Tom Hanks and his wife, as did Chris Cuomo. Seems some people hate Trump so much that they are trying to scare people from using a 60-year-old proven safe drug to use, thereby letting people die rather than give Trump the credit for bringing the drug up publically!

I took this same drug while fighting in the Nam, so did another 3 million G.I.s that served there, if it was so dangerous, I think we would have heard by now from then!
 

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Bogus Trump hate TDS buffoon video, blames it all on Trump, deflects the blame from the Chinese Commies who unleashed this on the world!

as far as Hydroxychloroquine, my Sons father-in-law had Covid with pneumonia and was prescribed this drug and survived, so did Tom Banks and his wife, as did Chris Cuomo. Seems some people hate Trump so much that they are trying to scare people from using a 60-year-old proven safe drug to use, thereby letting people die rather than give Trump the credit for bringing the drug up publically!

I took this same drug while fighting in the Nam, so did another 3 million G.I.s that served there, if it was so dangerous, I think we would have heard by now from then!
How can you call it a "buffoon video" when you obviously didn't watch the video!

Hydroxychloroquine is as effective on Covid as gummy bears! BUT hey take all the useless pills you want, I won't try to stop you...

BUT trying to talk to someone like you who believes everyone is after the real buffoon TRUMP!
 

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Here are some of the latest statistics, seems the US is doing rather well compared to other western countries.

Bizarrely the countries with socialised or partly socialised medicine seem to be the ones taking the hardest hit from this (there are exceptions, like Canada/Germany)

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As you can see below, the US has the most cases and most number of deaths, but that is to be expected as the population is so huge (329 million) compared to the UK (63 million), Italy (60 million) and France (67 million).

Statistically, the US is actually still doing better than even Switzerland:

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Source for all datea: Mortality Analyses
 

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Yeah we're doing great with over 1,000,000 cases confirmed along with the poor testing going on in the USA it's prob twice that at the very least.

So we have a low mortality rate and that's about it... and now the dimwits want to go back to biz as normal and open everything up and watch the deaths start shooting back up again and the shut down will be for nothing and we'll be back to where we started...

Well, I'm fairly safe from it so go ahead and open up everything with nothing to fight the virus, Body Count!
 

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Please tell me what Trump has done in handling the Corona Virus outbreak that is worthy of praise???
Trump shut down travel from China blocking thousands more infected from spreading the disease, the American Left branded him a Racist and Xenophobe for doing that, yet these same haters now claim he didn't act fast enough. He ordered the ending of the red tape at the CDC, instituted Defense Authorization Act making companies switch gears and make needed PPE.

mobilized the Army Corps of Engineers to construct mobile hospitals in New York, Chicago and other hot spots, providing thousands of beds and military medical staff to man them. Sent Two Navy Hospital Ships with thousands of beds to NYC and L.A.

He pressured the FDA to loosen restrictions and speed up the use of experimental drugs.

He is attempting now to open the economy up p again so our country doesn't completely collapse.

meanwhile what his TDS opposition done, but try to thwart his every move to the peril of our people thats what

Governor Cuomo, the new Hero of the left issued an executive order forcing Covid patients back to their nursing homes after leaving the hospital to spread of the disease there! BGovernorvenor Cuomo, the blood of thousands of nursing home patients is in your hands!
Yeah we're doing great with over 1,000,000 cases confirmed along with the poor testing going on in the USA it's prob twice that at the very least.

So we have a low mortality rate and that's about it... and now the dimwits want to go back to biz as normal and open everything up and watch the deaths start shooting back up again and the shut down will be for nothing and we'll be back to where we started...

Well, I'm fairly safe from it so go ahead and open up everything with nothing to fight the virus, Body Count!

so you want to destroy the U.S. with Tyrannical Statist Unconstitutional lockdowns!
Yeah we're doing great with over 1,000,000 cases confirmed along with the poor testing going on in the USA it's prob twice that at the very least.

So we have a low mortality rate and that's about it... and now the dimwits want to go back to biz as normal and open everything up and watch the deaths start shooting back up again and the shut down will be for nothing and we'll be back to where we started...

Well, I'm fairly safe from it so go ahead and open up everything with nothing to fight the virus, Body Count!
Low mortality rate means everything studies in Southern California show a mortality rate of .03% and so far the 2018 flu has killed more people in the U.S. 80,000 then Covid

The only way to beat any virus is to get herd immunity, and you don't get herd immunity cowering smugly in your house because you have the wherewithal, and expect others who have lost their jobs, ran out of money and can't put food on the table to do the same

Open the Damn Country back up, we have sime version of the flu or virus every year with thousands of deaths, yet the TDS hate group never ranted about that because they couldn't blame Trump!
 

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Yeah we're doing great with over 1,000,000 cases confirmed along with the poor testing going on in the USA it's prob twice that at the very least.

So we have a low mortality rate and that's about it... and now the dimwits want to go back to biz as normal and open everything up and watch the deaths start shooting back up again and the shut down will be for nothing and we'll be back to where we started...

Well, I'm fairly safe from it so go ahead and open up everything with nothing to fight the virus, Body Count!
The US isn't the only place with poor testing, Switzerland will only test you if you are already ill, and only have a capacity to process 3000 tests per day. Wonderful. There are theories that the number of people who had a light version and got over it is 10x the number actually tested. I'm pretty sure I had it back in late February, but I can't get tested, they would turn me away at the hospital. And yes, I self-isolate myself and had all food delivered during this time.

The low mortality rate is a sign that the population is winning the fight, and it really is the only statistic that counts.

All the political mud slinging about someone doing or not doing a good job is exactly that, mud slinging.

The odd thing is, when you compare the conservative estimate of a half a million people who are killed by the regular influenza virus each year (usually the oldest of the population) with the Coronavirus, it too is having the largest impact in their age bracket, but so far can't come even close to the yearly Influenza death toll. Granted, we're only 3 months into the Coronavirus.

The only real solution to this is a vaccine, but that takes time. So right now there is no perfect solution to this situation, but something must be done. So, like Switzerland and Germany, the US really has two choices, both have potentially horrible consequences in the short and long runs, but one is less horrible than the other

1. Leave everything closed down and tank the economy back to the stone age and have massive unemployment, which while this sounds a "better" solution, it likely isn't. Quality of life under a massive depression can get very, very bad, leading to more deaths across all age brackets. Just look at Venezuela these past years. (Damned if you don't)

2. Regulate the exit from lock-down keeping social distancing in place and ask/hope people to be personally responsible for their actions and maybe at the same time ask the at-risk groups to isolate themselves. (Potentially damned if you do).

I'll let you judge for yourself which one is less horrible.
 

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The US isn't the only place with poor testing, Switzerland will only test you if you are already ill, and only have a capacity to process 3000 tests per day. Wonderful. There are theories that the number of people who had a light version and got over it is 10x the number actually tested. I'm pretty sure I had it back in late February, but I can't get tested, they would turn me away at the hospital. And yes, I self-isolate myself and had all food delivered during this time.

The low mortality rate is a sign that the population is winning the fight, and it really is the only statistic that counts.

All the political mud slinging about someone doing or not doing a good job is exactly that, mud slinging.

The odd thing is, when you compare the conservative estimate of a half a million people who are killed by the regular influenza virus each year (usually the oldest of the population) with the Coronavirus, it too is having the largest impact in their age bracket, but so far can't come even close to the yearly Influenza death toll. Granted, we're only 3 months into the Coronavirus.

The only real solution to this is a vaccine, but that takes time. So right now there is no perfect solution to this situation, but something must be done. So, like Switzerland and Germany, the US really has two choices, both have potentially horrible consequences in the short and long runs, but one is less horrible than the other

1. Leave everything closed down and tank the economy back to the stone age and have massive unemployment, which while this sounds a "better" solution, it likely isn't. Quality of life under a massive depression can get very, very bad, leading to more deaths across all age brackets. Just look at Venezuela these past years. (Damned if you don't)

2. Regulate the exit from lock-down keeping social distancing in place and ask/hope people to be personally responsible for their actions and maybe at the same time ask the at-risk groups to isolate themselves. (Potentially damned if you do).

I'll let you judge for yourself which one is less horrible.

Maniacal Trump-hating buffoons would rather see millions die and the country tank than him get re-elected! These aren't our fellow Citizens, these are traitorous America Hating vermin!
 

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Final note, perhaps those not from America will not understand, I will give this "Shelter in Place" or "Self Quarantine" about another 3 to 4 weeks tops here, Americans are NOT going to tolerate being locked up, no matter what the circumstances, they will end this sooner than later and go back to work and mingle with the populace and accept the subsequent casualties.

Americans have never tolerated or been subjected to occupations by foreign forces or been forced to live under draconian rules without fighting back, in fact, that's what started the Revolutionary War here. Our founding fathers put into our Constitution the Bill of Rights, which delineates the fact that this country was set up for the rights of the individual above the rights of the Government.

Foreigners seem aghast at American's love of firearms and cannot understand it? Well, the 2nd Amendment wasn't put in our Constitution to promote hunting, it was put into the Constitution to ensure that the citizens could defend themselves not only from criminals and foreign invaders. but from their own government, if it became tyrannical.

Though firearms are useless against a virus, they won't be useless against the Anarchy that will ensue with a months long shut down and complete economic and societal collapse that it will cause. I was just in my local Gun Store today, the shelves were bare, every single pistol (over a hundred) was gone, as well as the majority of Shotguns and Rifles. Ammo? the only thing left was some esoteric calibers.

Americans are fighters, mark my words, I know my people, three or four more weeks will be the limit to the tolerance for this!
Gee, I told so, didn't I!
 

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I don't love Trump and I don't hate Trump, the thing I can't stand about him is he is so obviously BSing his way through everything he does even when there's no reason for it at all???

And this video you claim is blaming Trump for everything is just laying out the timeline of what was said and done over the last few months, it's a what, when, and who did or said what and if Trump doesn't look good it must be "Trump Haters", sorry but it's just what happened and his facts are spot on AND he always shows both sides like what can happen if this is opened up sooner then later OR later then sooner...

He's no buffoon, He's a peer review research scientist... but no doubt that fact will mean nothing if he's not saying what you want to hear...

Whatever, I could care less about the politics of this side "of the aisle" or that one because I'm not one either side, BUT I will say my mom got a gov check for $1,200.00 Friday and that was very helpful! Nice!
 

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I don't love Trump and I don't hate Trump, the thing I can't stand about him is he is so obviously BSing his way through everything he does even when there's no reason for it at all???

And this video you claim is blaming Trump for everything is just laying out the timeline of what was said and done over the last few months, it's a what, when, and who did or said what and if Trump doesn't look good it must be "Trump Haters", sorry but it's just what happened and his facts are spot on AND he always shows both sides like what can happen if this is opened up sooner then later OR later then sooner...

He's no buffoon, He's a peer review research scientist... but no doubt that fact will mean nothing if he's not saying what you want to hear...

Whatever, I could care less about the politics of this side "of the aisle" or that one because I'm not one either side, BUT I will say my mom got a gov check for $1,200.00 Friday and that was very helpful! Nice!
Whoever did the video montage should have done one of WHO and the Democrat Trump haters comments and predictions, those clips would make Trump look actually Mr. Spock-like in his commentary.
 

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No reason to get tested if your not sick, and since I've never had the flu, nor ever had a flu shot, whenever hell freezes over and they develop a COVID vaccination, I won't be getting one of those either.

Gates and Fauci are in bed together, and Gates couldn't prevent viruses in Windows, so I don't expect anything different from the dynamic duo dumbasses.
 

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If anyone is interested I'd suggest going to this PDF file of the Rockefeller Document published in 2010. Go to page 18 and read about "Lock Step" . This kind of shocked me when I read it and along with the recent Event 201 scenario (Google it) late last year that Gates was involved with sent chills down my spine. Sounds way too much like what's happening in the world today

https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller Foundation.pdf
 
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