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I own a few vintage Seiko watches, a King Seiko Classic 45, Lord Marvel 5740-0010, and a birth year 1965 Sportsman. I have also owned a few other Seikos over the years.

So, a few days ago, I grabbed THIS during Macy's sale.

The salesperson, grabbed a new one from the back, and it looked good to me, but when I got home I noticed that the chapter ring was off, and one of the indices was a little askew. I knew this was common, so it didn't bother me. Then I saw what looked like a nick on the side of the case, which turned out to be a manufacturing flaw, because you could see with a loop that it was polished around the edge, and had no sharp edges like a fresh nick. But whatever, it wasn't noticeable, unless it was in bright daylight. But what is really annoying is, +37 SPD...which I timed wearing the watch for 8 hours a day, and letting it sit face up when I wasn't wearing it.

I have a few other watches with NH35/36 movements, and none are greater than +15 SPD. In fact, if it had been close to +20 SPD, I'd be fine with it.

Anyhow, is this common? I plan to return it, but am worried, I'll get one that is similar.
 

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Typical Seiko, I sometimes wonder how they still exist. As it happens their customer service is pretty awful as well. If it were me I would just regulate the movement, it takes five minutes, However, even at your stated accuracy it is still within tolerance. Anyway, because of the other issues I would take it back to the retailer
I returned it....

I also pulled out an Invicta Pro Diver with a NH35 that I haven't touched in a few years, that I bought in 2015. Wound it, and wore it about 10 hours. +4 SPD.
 

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So, I ordered another, but had it shipped from Macy's. It has the exact same issues with the chapter ring, indices etc. Even has one of the manufacturing "nicks" on the polished sides of the case. Looking at it with a loop, you can see it's been polished over, it's just too deep to completely disappear. Looks like the case gets dinged up in media polishing after machining, and the finishers just half ass it until it looks acceptable. At least this one is in the middle of spec, at +20 SPD.

This one will probably go back... I mean, I like the watch, and I am
trying to just accept that if you want a Seiko, you are more than likely going to get a poorly assembled watch. But, I just have a hard time paying for this level of lazy QC.

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That accuracy is weird. But the chapter ring looks aligned correctly in the photo. The bezel is off, which is a known Seiko issue.
Looking at the dial at the angle in the photo, doesn't show how it does while flat. If you look flat at the dial, it is all off. Chapter ring doesn't line up with the indices, the bezel markers fall between them, and the 6'o'clock indicator is skewed. It just looks all wonky.
 

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This is my last update on this.

So, I have been wearing the watch daily for at least 8-10 hours after fully winding it last Tuesday. I wanted to test different resting positions at night to see if I can reduce the +20SPD. Wore it from 7AM, until 9PM on Sunday (14 hours), and when I checked it this morning, it was stopped at 4:24AM. Seriously? It winds, but it is completely stopped, and will not start.
 

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Crazy stuff Screwdriver. 😯 You would swear that they just resent you
the same watch you originally had trouble with. 😬 I mean the issues
with the watch were exactly the same, and then ended up being even
worse at the end of it all. 😧 And as Gary said, Seikos are not like this,
or are much better than what you are experiencing. However, now you
are left with this bad taste in your mouth with the brand.

It’s really unfortunate, but I hope you can get this lemon returned as
soon as possible. So sorry about everything.

THX a ton for keeping us updated on the whole situation sir !
Bought them from different Macy stores, online and a store....and the nicks were in different places.

Anyhow, I have had good luck with Seiko watches in the past, and this experience won't stop me from buying again, just not anytime soon.
 

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😀(y) Oh man, I really love your determination, and how much you
want this Seiko Screwdriver. ;) Let’s hope that somehow this one
shows up in great condition both outside, and in this time. ..Fingers
crossed that everything works out this time. Because you deserve it
after all of your hard work !
I don't ever remember having issues with other Seikos I have owned, like a Monster, Alpinist, SKX, etc. So, I am determined to get a decent SRPD.

I'll post after I get it and check the SPD.
 

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Okay, just got it delivered, straight from Seiko in New Jersey... Case is flawless, indices, chapter ring etc., all perfectly aligned. Wound it up and checked it on my timing app, which I found to be pretty close to what I see, and it's at +6 SPD, face up.

Anyhow, I'll pop off the bracelet and put it on a NATO, and wear it a few days and track it. But so far, it looks like the third time was a charm.
 
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