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Nice piece! We're supposed to be getting them in the US this month.....
 
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Beautiful. I really wanna 777 badly. I think I'm gonna wait though til prices fall a little. One is definitley in my future though.
 

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Sweet watch I have the 775 coming in from Sears end of this week. Would like to get one more down the road but will wait add some funds and wait for prices to drop a little.


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Wonderful looking Seiko. Two of my all time favorite watches have been of the Seiko pedigree......nice choice on this classic design!
 

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I saw nary a detail concerning pricepoint.
Or did I overlook it?
Beautiful watch with no pricepoint?

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Here in the Philippines the price point is around 250 USD. However Seikos have always been relatively inexpensive here. In other territories this is likely to be a bit more expensive.

If Seiko keeps up with the demand, and once the excitement dies down the price in other areas is bound to go down eventually.
 

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I saw nary a detail concerning pricepoint.
Or did I overlook it?
Beautiful watch with no pricepoint?

Lou Snutt
Any one know if this Seiko will be released in 3 versions? I discovered by checking the model number with Seiko they can advise whether watch was manufactured in Japan, Hong Kong, or the Philipines?

The difference, as I understand it is in the quality assurance each watch is given before being shipped ( I have listed in the manufacturing above from best (Japan) and worst (Philpines). The price too is effected since one can see a significant $275 - $120 range on the usual Pepsi model...


P.S. "The beauty of a watch is measured by a beholder no matter how much it costs... as long as its cost doesn't cramp your style..." Ted Turner
 

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Any one know if this Seiko will be released in 3 versions? I discovered by checking the model number with Seiko they can advise whether watch was manufactured in Japan, Hong Kong, or the Philipines?

The difference, as I understand it is in the quality assurance each watch is given before being shipped ( I have listed in the manufacturing above from best (Japan) and worst (Philpines). The price too is effected since one can see a significant $275 - $120 range on the usual Pepsi model...


P.S. "The beauty of a watch is measured by a beholder no matter how much it costs... as long as its cost doesn't cramp your style..." Ted Turner
As far as I know Seiko does not manufacture watches here in the Philippines. Their factories are in China, Singapore, Malaysia and Japan. Any watch coming from the first three countries are the "K" models. Japan made watches are the "J" models. This has been the topic of numerous threads already, "J" and "K" models are virtually identical save for some additional text ("Made in Japan") and/or language differences in the date wheel.

Some swear that "J" models are superior, but for the most part, the differences are negligible.

As for quality control of the new turtles, it would seem that the first production run of black/gold turtles almost all have the slight misalignment at 12 o'clock. Not sure if all blue turtles have QC issues. From what I have seen, the 777/779 black and pepsi versions are relatively issue-free.

This (QC issues) has no bearing on the price as far as the Philippines is concerned, as all Seiko watches (except JDM ones) have been historically inexpensive here, possibly due it being a major trading hub, lower SRPs set by the local arm of Seiko given existing market conditions, and lesser customs duties when trading with fellow South East Asian countries.

Ironically, compared to watches which make it all the way to the west, there are less QC issues here as a whole since traditionally watches are sold in brick and mortar ADs, with only a minority being sold online. Chances are defective units have less of a chance to circulate here than in other countries, since you often get to see or test the watches before buying.
 

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J and K does not refer to the country of origin. It refers to the country of sale. They are the same watches.

Only the very highest end Seikos - e.g. GS Hi-Beat - are manufactured in Japan.
 

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J and K does not refer to the country of origin. It refers to the country of sale. They are the same watches.

Only the very highest end Seikos - e.g. GS Hi-Beat - are manufactured in Japan.

So my SKX007J that says "Made in Japan" on the dial isn't really made in Japan? Lol


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J and K does not refer to the country of origin. It refers to the country of sale. They are the same watches.

Only the very highest end Seikos - e.g. GS Hi-Beat - are manufactured in Japan.

I'm eager to know what the "K" stands for?
 

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I don't know.
They seem CLOSE. But they are lacking something the original turtle has. I owned one.
The crown and crown guard bulge is off...
The dial is wrong.
Its a Seiko, so I will likely own at least one{hopefully}. But yes the price must come down.
 

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As far as I know Seiko does not manufacture watches here in the Philippines. Their factories are in China, Singapore, Malaysia and Japan. Any watch coming from the first three countries are the "K" models. Japan made watches are the "J" models. This has been the topic of numerous threads already, "J" and "K" models are virtually identical save for some additional text ("Made in Japan") and/or language differences in the date wheel.

Some swear that "J" models are superior, but for the most part, the differences are negligible.

As for quality control of the new turtles, it would seem that the first production run of black/gold turtles almost all have the slight misalignment at 12 o'clock. Not sure if all blue turtles have QC issues. From what I have seen, the 777/779 black and pepsi versions are relatively issue-free.

This (QC issues) has no bearing on the price as far as the Philippines is concerned, as all Seiko watches (except JDM ones) have been historically inexpensive here, possibly due it being a major trading hub, lower SRPs set by the local arm of Seiko given existing market conditions, and lesser customs duties when trading with fellow South East Asian countries.

Ironically, compared to watches which make it all the way to the west, there are less QC issues here as a whole since traditionally watches are sold in brick and mortar ADs, with only a minority being sold online. Chances are defective units have less of a chance to circulate here than in other countries, since you often get to see or test the watches before buying.



My K Turtle is quite aligned as you see from the picture.

J and K represent different markets the watch is going to be sold in.

In the 007 J has Made in Japan on the dial while K doesn't.

In the 779 J and K has the same dial.

But both J has English/Arabic for day.

Both K has English/Roman for day.

J is said to retain more value but they are more expensive in the first place. So I think it's a chicken or egg thing.

I have both J and K watches. Except 007. My other watches are K watches.

As long as a certain percentage of parts are made in Japan. The watch is allowed to state that.

So I don't think my 007J is made in Japan too. I just dig the statement on the dial.

My Sumo 001 and GS097 has Japan written on the dial.

Maybe if there is a 779J it'll have Japan on the dial too. When that appear in the market I may get the J one then.


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J and K represent different markets the watch is going to be sold in.

In the 007 J has Made in Japan on the dial while K doesn't...

As long as a certain percentage of parts are made in Japan. The watch is allowed to state that...
Actually, even this isn't quite right. It doesn't need any parts to be made in Japan to state "Made in Japan" on the dial, depending on the market. All that is required is that the watches are made in a factory somewhere with "Japanese management", and / or "Japanese standards of QA/QC", or some such. As a label "Made in Japan", in this context, is even less meaningful than "Swiss Made".
 
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