[garybittner1]

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My Swiss Army has an ISA1198 movement in it.

I checked for a replacement for it BUT the 1198 I looked at does not have a date.This is an 11 1/2 round movement.

It is 3.25mm thickand the other one that doeshave a date is 3.70mm thick. Thats too thick because the winding

stem will not line up. Anyone have one that will workor a different number.

The movement says: ISA1198. One jewel, AV SEMAG SWISS, 2169/50 and 8 39 08

Sure would like some help with this one. Has me scratching my head.



thx

 

[crotchhasteeth]

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Gary,
I hate to do it to you, but you will be scratching your head more in a minute.
ISA 1198 have MANY different , identical looking movements, in different sizes. Though the sizes arent more than a few MM in difference .Often you can find plastic movement rings to make any of these movements take the place of another.

For example , the IsA 1198 / 101 os the basic movement with hour , min , and sweep seconds. The ISA 1198 / 103 is the identical movement , with date as well as sweep seconds. The ISA 1198/ 42 is a model featuring time, sweep seconds, day and date. the ISA 1198/52 is the Rolex president styled time , sweep secs, date , with spelled out day of the week at 12 o clock.
I have heard of other variations to this workhorse movement, including aux seconds at 6 o clock. Somewhere on the movement , you will see something written in a long line of numbers like "ISA 1198.52" , and THAT is the exact movement you need to get. Barring that , measure the diameter of the movement, with out the add on plastic ring , if it has one. Do a in general search on google for "isa1198 with ..." and add the functions your watch movement exactly has . search for the size of the movement too when in doubt. Ofrei.com and Esslinger .com both sell replacement ISA1198 movements in various forms.

 

[garybittner1]

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I do apprreciate your answer and yes still scratching. I have looked for more numbers but did not find anything else other than what I listed. I did try your search ideabut came up with nothing new. Hard to beleive that with as many of these watches out there it would be that difficult to find a movement that would work. That mens officers watch is really popular. I am still digging. Thx

 

[tinknocker]

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I found this post at another forum. It may help


Overall movement height shouldn't be an issue, but stem height might be. I believe the stem height for the 2824-2 is 1.8mm. Stem height is the distance from the center of the stem to the dial. why is this important? Having the wrong stem height means the stem won't align properly with the case tube causing the stem to flex and possibly fatigue. I never understood how manufacturers of watch cases advertise their case works with both 2824-2 and 2836-2. The stems heights are 1.8mm vs. 2.25mm. The ISA 1198 non date (1198/101) stem height is 1.75 so that is on par with the 2824-2 at 1.8mm. The ISA 1198 with date (1198/103) stem height is 2.2mm equal to the 2836-2. Whenever you add a complication such as date, day or moon phase, you add to the stem height. The more you add, the greater the stem height. Maybe the difference between 1.8 and 2.25 isn't enough to cause a problem and both the 2824 and 2836 will fit fine in the same case.

Regarding which ISA to purchase, do you want a date? Not sure why ofrei is not using standard ISA number system.
ISA 1198/101 = 1198/12 non date
ISA 1198/103 = 1198/32 date at 3


You can read the thread here

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f6/quartz-mvt-eta-case-568762.html

 

[Phil Smith 57]

Hi i have just purchaced a watch in a job lot at auction . it is an Avia half moon phase swiss movement with the same
numbers 2169/50 ISa 1198 Prestige time company limited cant find this watch any where if anyone knows any info welcome thanks