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Opened up the wallet a bit this fine Sunday and this is the result. They only made 300 of these bad boys. 44mm Ref.3886

I can't stand buckles so will take the OEM strap off and replace with a beefy deployment something or other. Keeps it mint anyways. Any suggestions what might look good on it? Leather or bracelet for sure, no rubber or natos etc. It's a polished satin finish though so might be tough to match the finish with a bracelet unless it's something from the factory. And even then who knows.

 

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I love these Glycine pilots watches. Congrats and enjoy it.
 

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Welcome to the Airman Club....great watches.

 

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Nice. I like that RHD. Looks like it came from the factory with it.

However, couple red flags to the watches authenticity came up and wanted to run them past you guys and see what you think.

First: packaging

This is a picture of the packing that I've seen with it. Nice wooden box, spot for extra strap, tools etc. This pictures comes from the original review on watchuseek so I trust its authenticity. Looking around I have found this case several places and I trust it is what Glycine ships with for this watch.





Link to the watchuseek review:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f18/airman-double-24-09-review-845804.html

Now this is a picture of what I'm shown the watch in question comes with:


Looks to me like just a standard cardboard type box with Glycine branding. No spot for extra strap, tool etc. it shows a warranty card with extra sticker on it. The book is missing, but that I can see being more likely. Everywhere I searched I found the nice wooden box was what it came with, but this morning after more searching I did find this same packaging on worldofwatches. For what that is worth. With a limited edition of 300 pieces I have a hard time believing Glycinew ouod have two separate types of packing and contents that the watch ships with and am more inclined to think it is a Chinese knockoff, even if the watch is a decent knockoff which it looks to be.

Another red flag is the strap. Here is a photo of what I know to be authentic. It has blind embossed branding on the strap itself, oversized buckle and large crown image on one of the keepers.

Large Glycine logo on strap of known authentic:


Keeper and buckle shot of known authentic:


The images of the watch in question show it is branded with glycine, but missing the large logo on the south strap, has a smaller more standard buckle and has a different crown and logo com in tion embossed on the keeper. There is also he fact there is only one but I suppose it is possible the orange strap is missing. I guess it's also possible that the original black leather strap was missing and somebody replaced it with a different Glycine strap. I might be tempted to buy that if it had the proper packaging, and was told upfront.

The watch in question:


Smaller buckle and different embossed logo on keeper:


The guy seems to have been pretty accommodating considering my reservations that just came up last night on closer inspection, but I suppose I would be too if I was him. He 'says' he emailed the Glycine pictures of his watch to Glycine and they already confirm back this morning that it appears to be authentic but unless the are sent the watch could not confirm. There is obviously a time zone difference of 8+ hours but sending them an email in Sunday and hearing back by 7am on a Monday morning doesn't really st well with me.

If it were just any one of these things then I could probably dismiss my concerns. Heck even if I was told upfront that the original strap(s), tools, books and packing was missing and had been replaced by generic maybe I could have as well. But as it sits, to me, this adds up to several red flags that scream run away. If this were a few hinder solar watch I might be more inclined to take the gamble. That is very far from the case however.

I shared my concerns with him yesterday and told him that is not that I'm not interested but hae reservations and that I would like my funds returned via paypal until the matter is resolved. I woke up this morning and there was in fact an email from paypal saying I had been refunded. I certainly appreciate that.

The purchase was in watchuseek and he did have two transactions completed with positive reviews, however they were for much less expensive watches. His join date was only feb of this year. Based on his area code he is in Colorado Springs, not some place like China.

I do really like the watch but am leery of spending my hard earned money on a potential knockoff or replica. There is no local authorized Glycine dealer to bring it to for authentication should I choose to receive the watch.

Your thoughts? What would you do?




For reference...

Link to watchuseek ad:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-glycine-airman-double-24-09-a-1010139.html#post7633234

Link to similar packaging in world of watches:
https://www.worldofwatches.com/detail.asp?iq=1&bo_products_id=0&bo_products_variance_id=201928
 

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Well, Glycine does have different packaging.
That I know for a fact as I've received the standard black leather box, but have seen the black with cream felt lining and also the wood.
I think some of the difference there is market, where they are being sold. I don't think they ship the wood boxes to much because of possibility of it breaking.

As far as the strap, I don't know. I have reviewed a $2800 Glycine Lagunare that came with a standard rubber and the small thumbnail buckle as you show.
I'm going to pm you an email address to contact someone at Glycine USA.
Maybe email them the pictures you posted and ask if they can help authenticate a little more.


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Thanks very much. I emailed him just a few minutes ago and will see what he comes back with.

One other thing I find a bit odd is there shear number of 'new' D24's available for sale with a quick google search. All authorized dealers seem to be out of stock, as is Glycine, but grey market and ebay/amazon type 'dealers' all seem to have at least one or more available. Just an observation for whatever it's worth.

Still interested in the watch just want to minimize the chance of getting burned with an unauthentic piece, especially for over a thousand dollars.
 

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This is how one of mine came direct from the US distributor.

 

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This one is turning into a saga.

Maybe that's a sign :D

I'm a bit more comfortable proceeding with the purchase now so I decided to go for it. Talked to the guy, all was good, so I went to paypal to send him cash again. Well it seems since I paid on Sunday, it was processed Monday, which happened to be the same day he issued the refund. Apparently paypal thought this was strange so they are holding his refund and I cannot transfer any more funds until this clears anywhere from April 11-14. Of corse I didn't get any of this story until after I called paypal. Tried explaining that all I was trying to do was send the same guy the same money again but she didn't give a ****. I asked if they could simply do a reverse in his refund. No dice. The transaction was now flagged and just had to wait it out.

Now it happens I run six figures a year through paypal, and am in the middle of launching two new websites, both of which were to use paypal as the payment gateway. They could care less. So I will complete this transaction since they have my cash anyways and once it's done I'll cancel my account. They are aware of this and is of no consequence. I've heard a lot of crappy stories about paypal over the years but never had a problem myself. Apparently all it takes is a single translation to sour on them. No more. I'm done with that piece of junk company. There are far too many other payment options out there nowadays to put up with their BS.

Guy understands and is cool waiting until it all clears. Fair enough since it was his refund that flagged it. So it will take an extra week to get the watch. It it's coming.

I digress.
 

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I wouldn't be worried about the authenticity ... I've never seen or heard of a fake Airman.

It should have an exhibition caseback with a rhodium plated signed rotor... The dial plus the rotor plus the limited nature of the watches market and appeal make it a watch not worth faking. It's much easier to run a batch of fake Rolexes or Breitlings and sell every one of them as replicas on Canal Street... :rolleyes:
 
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Like Don(Tattoo Chef) mentioned, the watches could come in different packaging. Mine came like this with the appropriate papers.



This one came in a regular black box which you can barely make out in the picture. This one came with the hardcover Airman book, too.

 
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