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. . . I have found myself in an odd spot as of late. I log on to a forum or two virtually everyday, and find that I'm somewhere betwix and between, no matter which ones I visit. I rarely feel compelled to post, feeling a sense of no contribution in doing so. I can't help but feel that there is little sense in restating the same old "rah-rah" BS, stroking the carrot about the same old watch or atta-boy I read about the day before.

Jaded. . . .

The "one" boardI considered home base for the past while is becoming increasingly more alienating. And it has nothing to do with the dominant brands on the board. The tone, and general fan-boy attitude, is hard to relate to. Shop is certainly not what it once was, hell. . . . the deals aren't even there any longer!

Anybody else in this spot, or been there??? It is a peculiar thing. I have seldom if ever been one to be at a loss for words . . . . like Ineeded to point that out . . . . Randy.
 

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Brother it is like that on any site, and this site will get there as well. I dont think there is anything that can be done about it, with all the testosterone comes conflict, frustration and pure stupidity. I do like it here for now, as there are a lot fewer members, but it is growing fast and not too far in the distant future I will depart this and move on as well!!!
 

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Yes, it's like that on every forum. Eb and flow is part of it, you're just caught in the ho hums of posting at the moment. You'll come thru it soon. I did.
 

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. . . I have found myself in an odd spot as of late. I log on to a forum or two virtually everyday, and find that I'm somewhere betwix and between, no matter which ones I visit. I rarely feel compelled to post, feeling a sense of no contribution in doing so. I can't help but feel that there is little sense in restating the same old "rah-rah" BS, stroking the carrot about the same old watch or atta-boy I read about the day before.

Jaded. . . .

The "one" boardI considered home base for the past while is becoming increasingly more alienating. And it has nothing to do with the dominant brands on the board. The tone, and general fan-boy attitude, is hard to relate to. Shop is certainly not what it once was, hell. . . . the deals aren't even there any longer!

Anybody else in this spot, or been there??? It is a peculiar thing. I have seldom if ever been one to be at a loss for words . . . . like Ineeded to point that out . . . . Randy.
I understand exactly what you are saying Randy..The difference here is this forum is not owned and operated by a watch brand. So you can basically say whats on your mind with any watch brand you desire. You will always come across conflict but thats what makes conversation. We can actually discuss other brands without being stampeded on...So just kick back have a good time and participate so we can all enjoy and learn more...This forum is a bit more intimate and I like it like that...Enjoy and post away...:b
 

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randyswagon - hello.
Good post and you bring up a lot of good points. I have posted on forums, blogs, bulletin board, message boards, etc etc etc for almost 2 decades, and yes, at times it seems .... frivolous, and maybe even a little pointless. But that is what online internet communities are all about. You are creating online relationships that actually do and can have meaning in your life. Even if it is just in the recognition OR response to your posts and participation. And just like anything else you go through cycles of highs and lows in that "relationship" you have with the sites you visit. That does not mean you like the sites any more or less, but many times you DO need to take a step back and brief "breath" to regain your direction, focus, and "fun".

Do sites grow, change direction and feel, and sometimes completely go down paths that you might not like - of course. But that is normally when I just take that step back and read. No one says you have to post. Of course every site/forum would prefer that more members participate and post, but for you personally sometimes it is better just to lurk and read posts to get back the enjoyment of being there that you once felt.

What I have found is that these times typically will make you more selective in the posting that you do and you will make better posts in general. Quality over quantity.

I don't 100% agree with Ron's statement of "all the testosterone comes conflict, frustration and pure stupidity". I have seen and participated on forums (still do) with millions and millions of posts. I have seen many many members who never leave and just remain a active part of the community for years and years. The key, in my opinion, is what I mentioned above and pacing yourself so it remains fun. You CHOOSE to participate in any conflict and that can always be easily avoided.

You can always just leave and go elsewhere ... or no where. But forums like this are supposed to be fun. There is nothing wrong with participating on multiple sites and as mentioned above taking a break every now and then one place to "recharge your batteries".
 

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I have tried moving and then decided to plow through because if it's what you love doing there is no substitute. All the whining and complaining doesn't
really get you anywhere. Knowone wants to hear it or is effected by it.
At the end of the day it really doesn't matter on the web.
My 3 cents.
 

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I have days when I feel the same. Without getting into specifics, I think I understand how you're feeling. For me, these moments pass, and I return. Whether that takes a few hours or a few days.
 

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First let me explain I am making most of my reference to Ebay’s Community Forums, but the same problems exist and occur in any and all forums.[/i]

In my own limited experience on internet forums, I tend to see the same problem growing and growing. It is exactly like the sophomoric room monitor syndrome found in grade school rooms when the teacher has to leave the room and puts someone in charge to monitor [/b]the room, the moderator[/b].

I am in no way saying that moderation is not needed and required, the problem is a human issue.

We humans are social beings. We make and break relationships at a whim. The problem I am pointing out here is that moderators build relationships with members, some friendly some not so friendly. It is only human. The problem being then is that the moderator looses objectivity, impartiality, and the ability to judge fairly those post placed by members on both sides of the relationship.

Example, Jane Doe posts something about her problem at the BMV. Jack Frost doesn’t like Jane Doe’s post very much so he posts something negative about Jane bringing the problem on to herself. Mike the Moderator is friends with Jane Doe, but he doesn’t really like Jack Frost, so he slaps Jack Frost with a TOS sanction. Jack Frost tries to rebut to no avail. Since Mike doesn’t like Jack, Jack gets canned eventually, not really over his posts in question, but because the moderator doesn’t like him. This is a most simplistic example of the problem, pointing back to the room monitor (moderator) there classroom friends are permitted more leniency than those that are not friends, it’s only human.

What Ebay did to remove this potential problem is to form moderator committees. No single moderator may take any action alone, except in certain obvious situations regarding profanity or pornography, and must seek the assistance of not less than two other moderators or administrators to discuss and agree on the proper action. Also what ebay did is remove the posting privileges of the assigned moderators so that the social connections don't form in the first place, thus further ensuring fair and balance moderation.
I do think that step is a little over the top, but it did work for ebay. This committee limits favoritism and unfair sanctions from being placed on forum members out of revenge or animosity.

Now, ebay's forums are a fair and balanced community. Before, there were the over abundant posts of the REGULARS that could gang up on and attack the topic threads and posts of any member they did not agree with or approve of. Those attacks have stopped, and most of those selfish and rudemembers have moved to other sites.

Again, I am not necessarily referring to this forum or that forum but any and all forums that don’t follow Ebay’s policy of moderator committee. I have been told that on one other forum I use, very rarely now, that they do not follow this policy and I have been at the receiving end of such unfair and vengeful actions.

This policy helps to ensure members can post their thoughts and ideas about various topics without being slapped because a couple of moderators have it out for them.


 

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I also frequesnt various boards and in each case have decided to get out of it what I want. Every forum has it's own personality as well as similarities. I agree that some go way over the top with the "rah rah" and the "you're either with us or against us" attitude while others are so wide open there is no direction or moderation. In either of those cases, again, I just get what I want from the forum, good information, a few good contacts. I tend to spend the most time at the forum(s) that have members with a reasonable and grounded perspective. It's never perfect.

My biggest "gripe" are the insecure people that cannot accept that there are different opinions, again the word is opinion (some do not seem to know the definition). They hate that you don't like what they like and even worse start "shaking" when you say something negative, regardless of how true, about what they like...it really is kinda scary. We are still just talking about watches right?

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...My biggest "gripe" are the insecure people that cannot accept that there are different opinions...

It is called Political Correctness PC. Under PC, if your opinion does not agree with mine or is not totally neutral then don't post it!

PC is what led to the latest murders of our armed forces at Fort Hood. The fear of legal repercussions for doing an adequate background check on a prospectively dangerous individual.

PC is what allowed the attackers to take down the Twin Towers in NY and kill over 3K. Again, the fear of legal repercussions for doing an adequate background check on a prospectively dangerous individuals before allowing them to be trained to fly passenger airliners.

Political Correctness is what is destroying our once great Country.

In the interest of PC, this is as far as I may be allowed to go with this post.
 

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Due to the violation of "PC" TR the federal Government has asked that you modify your post; here's what they had in mind....

Me TR, me like'm watches, me have no independent thought:%:% (JK, LOL)

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Seattle wrote:
Due to the violation of "PC" TR the federal Government has asked that you modify your post; here's what they had in mind....

Me TR, me like'm watches, me have no independent thought:%:% (JK, LOL)

CJ


No, you are too generous, it would be more like...



Due to the violation of "PC" TR the federal Government has asked that you modify your post; here's what they had in mind....



Bahhhh, Bahhhh, Bahhhh! :(Be a sheep! Not a goat!
 

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What up Randy!! You know that yuou can always PM me!! My feelings and they might be selfish but i like smaller forums where you feel like family! You can still argue and most families do but you will find coommon ground be it bikes, cars , girls or something! I log off here to do some work:%and when i come back i still know whats going on, the bigger sites if gone for 3 hours there has been 1000 post and you missed it all(even though they all said the same thing over and over and over) There are alot of guys who dig invicta here and it's cool but they will look at other brands and are not so biased and feel more comfortable talking about different brands! Takes me about 5 forums to get what i need! This place gives me a little bit of everything. Z's has alot of old friends from the beginning, Y3 for kickass watches and a totally i your face attitude. WUS for the dive forum and sales forum, TZ for the sales forum. Rolex forum and Breitling source just to see whats going on. BDWF because those guys were real good to me when they knew where i was coming from (i will never forget that welcomed me with open arms)!! And WG's just cause i can at the moment but its the hardest one for me, dont dig change and remember how that place was 15 months ago! Wait i think that might be more than 5, if i missed any of you i'm sorry and need a life!:)
 

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Well said TR, couldn't agree with ya more my friend. Sick of all the PC BS!!!
If you don't like something you see, move on and go play somewhere else but don't tell me I have to be sensitive to others. After all, we're not a bunch of girls here,,,, ok, maybe a few girls.
 

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. . . Thanks guys. I needed to hear all this. And the greatest part is that the replies come from people I know, like and respect!!!

I realize it is time to set back and just "be" . . . . Not over think the issue.

I can state one fact, with absolute certainty, and that is that the real matter at hand is the feeling I get when I find a watch I like . . . the pursuit of obtaining it . . . the pleasure of waiting for it to arrive . . . and the joy of opening it and having it be exactly what I hoped it would be!!!!

For myself, at this point in time, it has virtually nothing to do with the make of watch. I vaselate between dress watches and divers, divers and sport. I have a $39 Croton I just love . . . so the value is not the issue . . . yet again there are times I want to roll out with some flash.

As for the "personalities" on the forums . . . . I deal with people all day at work. Most of whom I don't even care for. I am a Superintendent, so my conditioning has led me to be removed and precise in my thinking. I am paid to make decisions, plain and simple.My entry into the "Virtual Community"has been an opportunity to exercise the dormant or long forgotten parts of myself that are the better part of who I am. The person I want to be, in plainer terms. The place to be, without repraisal or judgement for what I say or how I feel. I get to be silly. Not something 60 men on the dock or deck of a ship can deal with. I get to be kind. And no fears of being taken advantage of.

. . . . Seems that there is a way to teach to teach an old dog new tricks!!!
 

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The fact that you've shown up here speaks volumes.
 

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Forum A is where a lot of people start sharing their passion for certain TV watches then their eyes are opened and they go to Forum B because in this forum you can actually talk about watches and share opinions with each other and gain valuable information that can be used to fuel your passion to collect more quality based timepieces. I will not classify which is Forum A or Forum B. I think that would create a Forum A type problem.
 

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Watchguru58 wrote:
Forum A is where a lot of people start sharing their passion for certain TV watches then their eyes are opened and they go to Forum B because in this forum you can actually talk about watches and share opinions with each other and gain valuable information that can be used to fuel your passion to collect more quality based timepieces. I will not classify which is Forum A or Forum B. I think that would create a Forum A type problem.
So cryptic, I am lost and I'll never be able to tell which is which!
 
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