Yes, I suspect he may be reading things back to front
Yes, I suspect he may be reading things back to frontActually I think the way his post math works out is that......70+ year olds have only a 5.4% chance of survival if they are infected, which is incorrect by allot me thinks
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These are the actual facts about fully vaccinated people...CDC is now saying evidence suggests vaccinated people aren’t spreading the virus. Two weeks after my second shot I’ll stop wearing the mask. I was prepared to continue, but the data says it’s a waste and to move on with life.
That said, I think there should be a simple card showing who’s vaccinated and if you’re not, you need to be wearing a mask.
Very cool news Wiggles, and the second one will probablyI had my first one four weeks ago, and get my next one on 23rd May. We have a 12 week gap here in the UK. Unfortunately I had a 90 minute round trip to get to the vaccination centre, but I suppose it's better than getting ill. Glad to know that you are not being charged for it in the US
How much are you being charged for it where you are?I had my first one four weeks ago, and get my next one on 23rd May. We have a 12 week gap here in the UK. Unfortunately I had a 90 minute round trip to get to the vaccination centre, but I suppose it's better than getting ill. Glad to know that you are not being charged for it in the US
So in summary....There are still a multitude of loose ends that need to be tied up before you can simply wave your “vaccine passport” and look down your nose at the anti vaccine crowdThese are the actual facts about fully vaccinated people...
Pay no attention to opinion and go straight to the source, The CDC...
- Key Points
- COVID-19 vaccines currently authorized in the United States are effective against COVID-19, including severe disease.
- Preliminary evidence suggests that the currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines may provide some protection against a variety of strains, including B.1.1.7 (originally identified in the United Kingdom). However, reduced antibody neutralization and efficacy have been observed for the B.1.351 strain (originally identified in South Africa).
- A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing.
- Modeling studies suggest that preventive measures such as mask use and social distancing will continue to be important during vaccine implementation. However, there are ways to take a balanced approach by allowing vaccinated people to resume some lower-risk activities.
- Taking steps towards relaxing certain measures for vaccinated persons may help improve COVID-19 vaccine acceptance and uptake.
- The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Vaccinated people could potentially still get COVID-19 and spread it to others. However, the benefits of relaxing some measures such as quarantine requirements and reducing social isolation may outweigh the residual risk of fully vaccinated people becoming ill with COVID-19 or transmitting the virus to others.
- Guidance for fully vaccinated people is available and will continue to be updated as more information becomes available.
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A friend of mine who used to be a boy scout leader with me died from COVID back in October. He was 56.Yes, not everyone is as lucky as most...
People need to stop politicizing basic health measures that greatly help stop the spread and mutation into a deadlier variant of this virus like simple mask-wearing, social distancing, and not gathering in crowds indoors, which even if you don't get sick at all from contracting the virus you are still giving it more and more chances to mutate into something more contagious and deadlier!
People all need to understand this fact!!!
Stop crying "freedom", being selfish, self-centered, and do your part to help crush this virus before it mutates into something much more contagious, deadlier, and it becomes something that will be even more devastating to our way of life than it already has been!
Sorry, but it needed to be said...
YES! the vaccines are not a silver bullet that will solve everything, but they are proven to stop most of the hospitalizations and deaths with the current known strains that we know about but as long as people let their guard down and allow the virus to keep bouning around it will continue to mutate into potentially some form that is far more contagious and deadly which will make the vaccines less effective, maybe to the point they become ineffective if this goes on long enough!So in summary....There are still a multitude of loose ends that need to be tied up
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The surgeon general in KY had an interview and said the CDC told him preliminary data shows vaccinated people don’t infect others. The interview was today.These are the actual facts about fully vaccinated people...
Pay no attention to opinion and go straight to the source, The CDC...
- Key Points
- COVID-19 vaccines currently authorized in the United States are effective against COVID-19, including severe disease.
- Preliminary evidence suggests that the currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines may provide some protection against a variety of strains, including B.1.1.7 (originally identified in the United Kingdom). However, reduced antibody neutralization and efficacy have been observed for the B.1.351 strain (originally identified in South Africa).
- A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoing.
- Modeling studies suggest that preventive measures such as mask use and social distancing will continue to be important during vaccine implementation. However, there are ways to take a balanced approach by allowing vaccinated people to resume some lower-risk activities.
- Taking steps towards relaxing certain measures for vaccinated persons may help improve COVID-19 vaccine acceptance and uptake.
- The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Vaccinated people could potentially still get COVID-19 and spread it to others. However, the benefits of relaxing some measures such as quarantine requirements and reducing social isolation may outweigh the residual risk of fully vaccinated people becoming ill with COVID-19 or transmitting the virus to others.
- Guidance for fully vaccinated people is available and will continue to be updated as more information becomes available.
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And that is the attitude that will allow this thing to never end, junk science...The surgeon general in KY had an interview and said the CDC told him preliminary data shows vaccinated people don’t infect others. The interview was today.
When I am two weeks past my second shot, which is late April, unless the CDC revises it’s stance, I’m done with masks unless the business requires it.
Wow, so sorry sir.A friend of mine who used to be a boy scout leader with me died from COVID back in October. He was 56.
You can call surgeon generals as peddling junk science, but I don’t. Seems kinda ridiculous actually.And that is the attitude that will allow this thing to never end, junk science...
That's just not how it works! cases in many states are starting to rise again even with many people getting vaccinated because people are starting to believe that fully vaccinated means there is nothing to worry about and they can just go back to the way things were but that's just not the case!
My God if we don't all get on the same page we will never get the life we once had back and this virus will turn into something much worse than it already is!![]()
You mean the surgeon general in KY?You can call surgeon generals as peddling junk science, but I don’t. Seems kinda ridiculous actually.
It's all of what the surgeon general of KY and Gov. Andy Beshear of KY said just one week ago, you shouldn't let politics cloud your judgment on making health decisions...I don’t have time or desire to read all that.
You’re lining all this stuff up and none of it apparently has to do with what I’m talking about. So what’s your point? Old information is what you prefer to use? People who won’t use what you use are wrong, even though you’re citing old info?
And by the way, Beshear is a total idiot. Everything out of that man’s mouth is either BS, corruption, or drivel meant to get him to a higher office. He’s the most partisan POS I’ve ever seen in politics, and an embarrassment to KY. I do trust his medical officer because medical officers have ethics, unlike Beshear.
One week ago is not today. It’s like you’re arguing simply to argue, because you’re not making any sense. Politics clouding my judgment? Where do you get this crap?It's all of what the surgeon general of KY and Gov. Andy Beshear of KY said just one week ago, you shouldn't let politics cloud your judgment on making health decisions...
You are your own man, BUT if we can't pull together to crush this virus the future looks bleak... even more so than it already does here...
But the good news is everyone in Vegas is wearing a mask, I rarely have to get near people I don't know, I always wear a mask around those people when I do, and I keep my distance from them, all of which takes zero effort, so I'll be fine...![]()
If this is arguing to more than just you, we are doomed to a life of this virus always being with us as it continues to mutate and get's more contagious and deadly.One week ago is not today. It’s like you’re arguing simply to argue, because you’re not making any sense. Politics clouding my judgment? Where do you get this crap?
You just want to argue to listen to yourself argue.
I’m done.
I am in the UK, so we have the NHS. To be honest the NHS is pretty useless, despite some of the hype you may hear, but at least it is free at point of use. Because you have a privatised system, I suspected you may have to pay, but was informed a short while ago you get the get the vaccine for free, which pleased meHow much are you being charged for it where you are?![]()
It's almost certain now that the virus came from bats, and then through a third party host. As first suspected, this was probably in a wet market in China. These places are vile, and all sorts of cruel and unsavory things go on there. Nature has a way of getting back at us, especially as our specie is very overpopulated. I suspect we may get the better of this virus, but there will be another one around the corner.If this is arguing to more than just you, we are doomed to a life of this virus always being with us as it continues to mutate and get's more contagious and deadly.![]()
I don't even want to imagine what a mess we would be in if we all had to pay for the vaccine with so many out of work and struggling to put food on the table due to the pandemic?I am in the UK, so we have the NHS. To be honest the NHS is pretty useless, despite some of the hype you may hear, but at least it is free at point of use. Because you have a privatised system, I suspected you may have to pay, but was informed a short while ago you get the get the vaccine for free, which pleased me
Thank heaven the UK got out of the EU, otherwise I could be waiting many more months for a vaccineI don't even want to imagine what a mess we would be in if we all had to pay for the vaccine with so many out of work and struggling to put food on the table due to the pandemic?
I suspect that with the way things are going here by the time we really get a handle on this virus there will be well over a million dead here in the US?
If you think about it, this virus would be the perfect weapon to use against the USA, just give America something that we all need to pull together to defeat and we are doomed before it even starts???modern America is nothing like the America of World War II because we have the internet and disinformation where everyone lives in their own little bubble of selfishness with little sense of "we the people" now, most of us rarely look outside our own little bubble unless something directly affects us...
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