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May I make a suggestion, if you really start getting into this "Watch" thing and want to not completely deplete your funds, go sparingly on the Swiss stuff, and check out Seiko in particularly.

They make excellent top quality watches, mechanical, quartz, solar, kinetic, in almost every price range going on up to their Creedor models which rival Patek Phillipe.

Hard to beat Seiko in the bang for buck category.
With your experience and collection, I will definitely take that advice to heart.
 

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Please consider this post to be nothing more than one Watchfreek passing along potentially relevant information to another Watchfreek.

Last year the Federal Trade Commission busted Shinola for falsely claiming their watches were "Made in America". Articles with the details can easily be found with a quick internet search.

You might also want to read this article from Inc.com which explains how about 6 years ago an investment group from Texas purchased an old shoe polish brand name, created a vintage appearance, and then created a narrative that gave the brand the appearance of having a long-established pedigree (including adopting Detroit as its home) while buying all of the parts for its watches from a Swiss partner and simply assembling the watches in the US.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/201604/stacy-perman/shinola-watch-history-manufacturing-heritage-brand.html

I have no idea of the quality or reliability of the watches sold by Shinola. And, admittedly, some of the Shinola watches I have seen are nice looking. However, I find Shinola's playing fast and loose with the "Made in the USA" label to be, at a minimum, disingenuous.

Please believe me when I say that I have no agenda other than to give a "heads up" to a new 'freek. If none of this information gives you any pause then please purchase the Shinola of your choice, wear it with pride, and enjoy it.
 

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Welcome to the watch shin dig.
In Re: the Hammy watch. IMO you off on the right foot fer sure.
Experts say weed is the gateway drug to harder drugs?
Hamilton is the gateway to even nicer watches.
Back n tha day when I was a locomotive engr I opted for 2 RR
grade pocketwatches (wristies weren't approved yet) both were
Hamiltons. 992b and 950b. Lever set. Montgomery dials. Simmons
gold watch chains.
There were other approved brands like Illinois, Elgin, Ball and
Waltham but Hammy was my choice.

Lou Snutt (aka X Traindriver Art)
 

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Welcome to WF, That Hamilton is great. I have 2 of those exact watches, one on strap, other on bracelet, plus 3 other Hammys. You simply can't go wrong with Hamilton. Very well done sir!
 

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When looking for other watches I would highly suggest looking at the used market as well. WE have a really active watch market here on WatchFreeks of which I have both purchased and traded several watches.

Another excellent tool is watchrecon.
 
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Please consider this post to be nothing more than one Watchfreek passing along potentially relevant information to another Watchfreek.

Last year the Federal Trade Commission busted Shinola for falsely claiming their watches were "Made in America". Articles with the details can easily be found with a quick internet search.

You might also want to read this article from Inc.com which explains how about 6 years ago an investment group from Texas purchased an old shoe polish brand name, created a vintage appearance, and then created a narrative that gave the brand the appearance of having a long-established pedigree (including adopting Detroit as its home) while buying all of the parts for its watches from a Swiss partner and simply assembling the watches in the US.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/201604/stacy-perman/shinola-watch-history-manufacturing-heritage-brand.html

I have no idea of the quality or reliability of the watches sold by Shinola. And, admittedly, some of the Shinola watches I have seen are nice looking. However, I find Shinola's playing fast and loose with the "Made in the USA" label to be, at a minimum, disingenuous.

Please believe me when I say that I have no agenda other than to give a "heads up" to a new 'freek. If none of this information gives you any pause then please purchase the Shinola of your choice, wear it with pride, and enjoy it.
I was going to say something. But this post pretty much covers it. IMO, Shinola and C.C.Filson watches are bordering counterfeit. And for what they charge. You can do much better. Don't let that made in Detroit thing fool ya. Like Big Casino said, freek to freek heads up. :)
 

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Please consider this post to be nothing more than one Watchfreek passing along potentially relevant information to another Watchfreek.

Last year the Federal Trade Commission busted Shinola for falsely claiming their watches were "Made in America". Articles with the details can easily be found with a quick internet search.

You might also want to read this article from Inc.com which explains how about 6 years ago an investment group from Texas purchased an old shoe polish brand name, created a vintage appearance, and then created a narrative that gave the brand the appearance of having a long-established pedigree (including adopting Detroit as its home) while buying all of the parts for its watches from a Swiss partner and simply assembling the watches in the US.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/201604/stacy-perman/shinola-watch-history-manufacturing-heritage-brand.html

I have no idea of the quality or reliability of the watches sold by Shinola. And, admittedly, some of the Shinola watches I have seen are nice looking. However, I find Shinola's playing fast and loose with the "Made in the USA" label to be, at a minimum, disingenuous.

Please believe me when I say that I have no agenda other than to give a "heads up" to a new 'freek. If none of this information gives you any pause then please purchase the Shinola of your choice, wear it with pride, and enjoy it.
Yes, it was misgivings over this sort of thing, as well as the fact that I wanted to go with an automatic, that steered me toward the Hamilton. As you say, they are very nice looking watches and it was the fact that the Khaki has that same aesthetic that decided me on that one. I wanted my first watch to be "qualms-free".
 

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As they say in the films "I concur" (with Chazzman i.e.)
Don't put all yer eggs in one basket. Spend yer bucks
wisely.
Seiko, Citizen and Orient have some great players too.
I have 28 watches in my collection. Not all (but some) are
Swiss. Trolling for my fave German watch. The Sinn.

Lou Snutt
 

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As they say in the films "I concur" (with Chazzman i.e.)
Don't put all yer eggs in one basket. Spend yer bucks
wisely.
Seiko, Citizen and Orient have some great players too.
I have 28 watches in my collection. Not all (but some) are
Swiss. Trolling for my fave German watch. The Sinn.

Lou Snutt
The addiction is already setting in. Here is how it goes:

1. Loving this Hamilton, looks great with my dress-casual at work (an attorney in a small town firm, so we keep it casual).
2. BUT, what about kicking around more casually on the weekend, or maybe on hike? May need something different for that . . .
3. Hmm, everyone is saying I should also be considering Seiko's and Citizens, etc, you know, gotta have variety . . .
4. Wow, these nylon strap field watches by Seiko and Citizen (and one by Bertucci) are pretty nice, and less than $150! I know I just bought a new watch, but that's not a lot of money and, really, I DO need something for out in the field . . .

sigh. I am sure you have all been there. :)
 

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Congrats from a 15 year collector who affine time let it contol me rather than I control it. I hope you enjoy your well deserved new high end piece. I know your feeling of excitement and it's a fun kid like feeling. It never gets old. Hope it brings you many years of enjoyment. Be careful because it's most likely not your last high end piece. It's a very fun hobby that can become expensive lol. I am proof of that :). Congrats again.
 
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