My first watch project - Watch Freeks


Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By Roarry
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-28-2019, 12:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
My Photos: View
Posts: 10
Default My first watch project

I am not keen on large watches or heavy watches or fat watches and prefer the field/military style, simplicity, robustness and water resistance.

This makes it difficult to find anything suitable at a reasonable price.

I have my eye on the new Precista PRS10 and may still take the plunge and order one even though it is more than double what I have ever spent on a watch before!

Anyhow I have an old defunct watch that was perfect in many ways and I am planning to get it working again and if possible improve it. At this stage I haven't much of a clue how to do it, which is what brings me here - to read, listen and learn - and ask a few questions

This is the watch I want to fix up, It is a titanium Boccia dating from about 2000.

It has a Miyota movement which seems to be working at the moment but was not reliable last time I wore the watch about 5 years ago. I would like to replace this with something half decent and with long battery life.

The glass is flat sapphire crystal and needs replacing.

The face and hands are OK but a bit boring and lume is poor so I would like to replace these.

The case is fine, I would like to drill through the holes for the strap pins but not sure if this is possible. I will probably drop it in a tumbler to give a fine stone washed look to the titanium

It will need new seals I guess on the stem and the case back, not sure how the glass is sealed yet - one of the many things I need to learn.

Any advice or suggestions welcome and appreciated.

mysterymike is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-28-2019, 10:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Roarry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
My Photos: View
Posts: 1,733
Default

MM, welcome to the forum!
All you mention is doable (drilling the lugs will be tough) It seems to me a project like this is not the best way to start watch modding / repair because of it's complexity. I'd start with replacing the crystal & the movement 1st. You'll need to get a few tools before you start. Do plenty of research & reading. Some of the work you'll need to have done. Good luck!
Reflex likes this.
__________________
Deo Volente


If I learned from all of my mistakes, I'd be a genius.


Roarry is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-29-2019, 08:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
MDNTRDR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
My Photos: View
Posts: 583
Default

If you really like that case get a few inexpensive watches to practice the operations on. Google and patience are your friends. Good luck and welcome to Watch Freek's
MDNTRDR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-29-2019, 09:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
My Photos: View
Posts: 10
Default

I understand what you are saying and you are both probably right. However I like a challenge and cant see the point of making something I dont want, so will just go for it and do what I can. If I make a hash of it - it is no big deal and you can have a laugh on me

From my research so far, the dial seems to be the hardest thing to source - off the shelf and it looks quite tricky to make one.

I do have a small lathe but it is huge compared to a watch makers model. I am sure I can make a wax chuck for it though and see if machining a dial is possible.

Can you use hot melt adhesive with a wax chuck?
mysterymike is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-29-2019, 12:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Hoth, New Jersey, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 8,052
Default

Mike, wow, this is all way beyond me, and am honestly learning from you,
and the guys about all of this really. But it really sounds like you are
ready to begin an incredible adventure, and project there !

Can't really answer any of your questions from any first hand experience
unfortunately. But with the sealing of the case, and crystal. I found a
few links to Esslinger that may help you out. I hope they do, or can.


https://blog.esslinger.com/how-to-waterproof-a-watch/


https://blog.esslinger.com/how-to-re...watch-crystal/


https://blog.esslinger.com/watch-cry...cement-videos/


Good luck by the way !
AtomicTom is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2019, 10:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
My Photos: View
Posts: 10
Default

Thanks Tom, much appreciated

I have made some progress, chucked the case in a tumbler which removed all but the worst scratches and turned it a darker shade of grey - it looked quite nice. However the even finish showed marks quite easily so I cleaned it all off with scotchbrite to give a nice fine brushed finish.

The crystal popped out real easy on my 5 ton arbour press - didnt even have to pull on the lever, the weight alone was enough. I will have to take care putting the new one in!

The crown seal disintegrated when I removed it, I could hardly see the thing. Can anyone advise how you size these for ordering a new one?

I am sort of planning to make my own watch face to fit a Ronda 703/713 movement but am aware that the thickness of the face will affect the hand fitting height. Are there any standards/rules regarding this? Do all faces have to be a certain thickness? I have been studying the Ronda drawings and specs but have haven't been able to get my head round it yet.

Case all cleaned up :
mysterymike is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-01-2019, 12:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Hoth, New Jersey, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 8,052
Default

Boy oh boy, this is unbelievable honestly Mike !

The way you just have the knack, and common sense for everything
you are doing. ..Plus evidently are doing all of it with such ease is
incredible. Just is terrific how passionate you are, and can just see
how much fun this is for you.

Love how you are learning how to do all of this, but then are also
learning as you go, and coming up with neat ways to solve any
problems that come your way too. You are like part MacGyver,
and part Einstein.

Seriously, think you are the once giving the lessons now sir.

Thanks so much for the update, and continued good luck !
AtomicTom is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-10-2019, 09:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
My Photos: View
Posts: 10
Default

Managed a bit more on this project today.

I have ordered some parts and tools from Cousins- (not the most user friendly website) the movement is on back order so I cant do too much more just yet.

I did make a couple of faces out of some .6mm titanium I had in the workshop. They are just plain discs at the moment, I will worry about the dial details and finishing when everything else is sorted.

I made up a wax chuck (a bit of aluminium) and glued the titanium on with hot melt adhesive. It fell off a couple of times to start with but if I took very small cuts it worked quite well. Pics:







Thanks for looking
mysterymike is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-10-2019, 01:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Hoth, New Jersey, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 8,052
Default

Wow, just wow Mike ! This is on a different level really now.

Just check that out !!! Think the best thing to do is just sit back,
and enjoy from this end. Pretty remarkable to see just how advanced
you are with all of this. It's something to see actually. ..Thank you so
much for taking the time to give us a behind the scenes, and update !
AtomicTom is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2019, 08:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
My Photos: View
Posts: 10
Default

I havent given up on this, it just took a while to figure out the next step - and life got in the way a bit :-)

I have been trying to work out a cheap simple way of machining a watch face, eventually I came up with an idea, built it and this morning have given it a try.

It is a simple jig to clamp the watch face under my mini mill and control accurately its angle of rotation so the markers can be cut accurately. Pics



It worked a treat though I may try another with smaller holes and slotting at 3 6 and 9 as well as the 12. Might try some form of minute markers too.

I still havent figured out how to finish the face. I was thinking about anodising the titanium - you can get some nice colours, but I want to fill the holes with lume and I am not sure if I can finish the lume flush without damaging the anodising.
mysterymike is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-05-2019, 09:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Hoth, New Jersey, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 8,052
Default

Think it's just unbelievable how you are doing all of this Mike, and then
love the way you attack any problem that comes up.

Seriously, you are coming up with these ingenious solutions like it is
nothing. Then on top of that are thinking of doing things that even the
most seasoned watchmakers out there may not even try !
Love it Mike, and am actually kind of speechless to be honest with
you. Can only imagine how fun this all has to be, and I like how you
are really taking your time, and learning as you go. Just is the best
to watch, or read.

Thank you sir !!!
AtomicTom is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Forum Navigation

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Watch Freeks forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My 9 Months Project- Project Apollo apollowatches Freeky Member BLOGS 1 09-21-2017 11:56 PM
First watch, first day, first post Vance General Watch Discussions: 37 01-26-2017 06:20 PM
My first Reactor and my first Reactor CS experience Luis Alfonso III Reactor Watches 11 09-28-2015 10:36 AM
My first project irregardlessly Watch School 101: 7 11-25-2014 03:54 PM
Kickstarter Watch Project - Para Clocks Project TVDinner Wall Clocks 0 01-21-2013 07:12 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:36 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.