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Old 07-02-2011, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A while back, I bought a 6309-7040 with the intention of doing my first modified watch. It took a while, but all of the parts and tools have finally made it to my house and it is ready to start. I will be using this thread to post updates photos to show the good, the bad and the ugly of the build.

This is the before picture:





This is what will be going into it and the tools being used:





The watch will get a new domed crystal, dial, chapter ring, hands, bezel, bezel insert, bracelet, crown and all new gaskets...with any luck, I will not smash it into pieces after a day.
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So it looks like it will end up being a blue dial and bracelet. very nice!


I am looking forward to seeing updates on this one.
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Wow! That looks like fun.
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Very Cool! :c


I think I'd like to give this a shot myself. However, where does one begin? Any recommendations or tips to get started?

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Looks like an interesting mod. Good luck and have fun.
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Let us know how it goes I was thinking about trying my hand at something like this but have been on the fence.Good luck
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Very Cool! :c


I think I'd like to give this a shot myself. However, where does one begin? Any recommendations or tips to get started?

Thanks ... IAmScott
I actually would not recommend a 6309 at this point. Good quality parts are getting hard to find and there is a lot less variety! However, there are tons of skx031, 781, 007 & 009 parts out there as well as 7002 parts.

The first step is to find out what base model you like. Next is to check out modification pictures to see what types of changes you can do (hands, dials, crystals, finish changes, bezel upgrades/inserts...etc.). Once you get a vision, buy the parts (10watches.com, yobokies, ebay...etc.)...but make sure that they are from a quality supplier and the lume matches from the dial to the hands (C1 to C1, C3 to C3, SL to SL...etc.) because it will look likea hot mess with different shades (in daylight) or different lume colors (in the dark).

There are some good posts from Noah Fuller (on WUS and thewatchsite) that walk you through the compatability of the parts between the Seiko watches to help you with what will work and what won't:

DIY: Seiko Diver Modding 101 by Noah Fuller - http://forums.watchuseek.com/f6/diy-...-a-466199.html

Fits for the basic Seiko divers: 6105 / 6309 / 7002 / 7s26


Hands:
all hands on all Seiko Auto's are a fit ...

Dials:
99% of Seiko dials are 28.5mm in size, if you cut the pins off the back of the dial most dials will fit each other but you will need to use glue or tape to fix the dial to the movement ring

6309 dial have a small tab at 2:00 to keep an eye out for ...

6105 will fit 6309 but not the other way since the 6105 is date window only
6309 7002 & 7s26/7s36 do not fit each other ...
6R15 dials will fit 7s26 movements but like the 6106 the 6r15 is date only window
And so a custom no date or no day/date 7s26 dial will fit a 6r15

Glass:
6105 glass will fit 6309 & 7002
6309 & 7002 glass will not fit 6105 because the 6105 needs a domed glass for hands to clear ..
6105/6309/7002 does not fit 7s26 divers ...

Chapter rings:
I think 6105 and 6309 chapter rings fit but all others are different ...

Bezel inserts:
6105 6309 7002 are fine the 7s26's might need a little trimming we're talking mm's in size to fit the other but basicaly like hands all fit ...

Crowns and stems:
to keep it simple they don't fit each other with out a little modding ..
7002 crowns fit 7s26 but the stems need to be changed

if you see anything wrong or have a few more tips feel free to ad to the post ..

PS:
the 7002-7039 diver is a transitional diver from the 150m to 200m rating it is a true odd ball and parts fit the new 7s26 divers not back to the older divers ...



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Good luck with your build...looks interesting. Not something I would ever consider doing myself...hands shake too much anymore. Considering I use to take old Mac's apart, and do repairs on them...I might have thought about doing something like that 20 years ago....but not anymore.



I do like the blue dials....can't wait to see the "In Progress" pictures and the final outcome.
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Wow! Thanks Andrema for the info!
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Good luck.

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Looking forward to see the end results. Good luck!
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If I may add, I've had a great experience working with Jakob over at 10watches.com. The parts arrived in less than 3 weeks, all were well protected, and the prices are nice & low.

I've seen some eBaysellers with some "slightly inflated" prices...careful shopping can really pay off when it comes to buying watch parts.
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Now that looks like FUN!!!! This is just another reason to be a Seikoholic. Your right on about the 007 and 009. So many different parts available that you can design and build your ownone of a kind Seiko. How Cool! It just takes this great hobby to the next level. Much luck and I can't wait to see how she goes!!
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And....so it begins!

I figured that I could probably work on this project in my office at lunch. So, I gathered all of the parts, tools...etc. and brought them to work this morning!

I first took off the strap:





I removed the caseback:



With the caseback off and the case in a case holder, I used a toothpick to depress the crown release and pulled the crown out:





Once the crown was out, I turned the case/case holder over...nothing came out. So, I used a toothpick to pry a little at the movement/movement spacer. After a few tries, it loosened and fell into my hand:







I then placed the movement into a movement holder in preparation for removing the hands/dial:







Done for the day -- took about 15 minutes, with care.



The one thing that I forgot was finger cots! I need to order them!!!




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lookin' good so far :c

i bet you could pick up some finger cots at Staples
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I'm excited to see your progress. I would NEVER have the patience to do something like that. It's all I can do to change a band. Good luck!
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OK…Day 2!



I had a little time today, so I tackled the remaining disassembly (other than crown) of the watch during my lunch.





First, I removed the bezel. To avoid marring the case, I put a little painters tape on the area that I would be working in. I slipped the tool under the bezel, twisted with a little pressure and….popped off.













Once the bezel was off, I then worked on removing the crystal retaining ring. The technique was exactly the same as for the bezel. It was a little tighter, but with a bit of pressure on the twist, it popped off too.













Since I will be experimenting with different bezels (I will be brushing one out), I removed the bezel insert. This was pretty easy! All I did was apply a little pressure to the underside of the insert with my finger tip and it came free.







The next step that I did was to prepare for the crystal remover. The case press that I bought has a bunch of nylon inserts that are meant to be used for different watches and purposes. I selected one that fit inside the case from the back and another that held the front of the case just larger than the crystal.









I put the case/crystal into the press with the case back side up. One little push and the crystal, chapter ring and inner ring with gasket came out into the bottom insert. That was much easier than I imagined!













I gathered the parts and put the sensitive parts in individual envelopes to keep them from getting damaged. The rest went into a sealed container and are ready to clean this weekend…that will involve lighter fluid, an ultrasonic cleaner, toothbrush and dish soap!







That all took around 15 minutes with taking my time and being careful.








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Very cool
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I like it. Much smoother than I thought it would be.
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