How To Tell A Fake? - Watch Freeks


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-17-2012, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mount prospect, Illinois, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 97
Post imported post

I was at a pawn shop today (You never know what you might find,) and found 3movado gold case black dial with the yellow gem 12. Two of them where matching one of them was a little different in style. Problem is, He's wanting 110 each, Now from the matching ones I've found online that is way too low to seem real.
So my question is:How do you tell a fake from a realmovado? is there any words on the dial that differ like if it says swiss made. or should I get the S/N numbers and contactmovado and see if they have them on record?
I want these watches, But to find out they where fake after I bought them would be a bit disheartening.

Attached Thumbnails
How To Tell A Fake?-775924742618_movado_womens_museum_watch_black_leather_band_black_dial__0606131.jpg  
__________________
Time was made so everything does not happen at once.
Zax1108 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-17-2012, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Caddymon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Anacortes, Washington, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 10,148
Post imported post

Best bet would be to run down the serial #s and see if they match the watch as in the pic short of opening the case back.If the pawn shop would open the case backs you can be sure if its the real thing too. I have owned a couple Movado's and they do say Swiss Movado Made at the 6.
Caddymon is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2012, 07:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Caddymon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Anacortes, Washington, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 10,148
Post imported post

This looks similar sold at Jomashop.http://www.jomashop.com/movado-serio-0606388.html
Caddymon is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-17-2012, 09:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Tattoo Chef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Death Valley, , USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 19,337
Post imported post

We can discuss how to determine a fake , but please do not discuss buying or owning fakes. It's illegal and something we do not discuss on the forum.
Posts mentioning this were deleted.
Tattoo Chef is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2012, 10:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mount prospect, Illinois, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 97
Post imported post

Oh I do beg your pardon. I'm new to pre-owned watches and had no idea. That is very good info to know though:BE
Thank you!
__________________
Time was made so everything does not happen at once.
Zax1108 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2012, 10:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mount prospect, Illinois, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 97
Post imported post

So by the sounds of it at 110 each are they worth the work and time trying to investigate them or should I just move on? I personally like them so I would like very much for them to be real but with all the fakes out there it's not likely I fear.
__________________
Time was made so everything does not happen at once.
Zax1108 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2012, 10:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Tattoo Chef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Death Valley, , USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 19,337
Post imported post

It's sketchy.
They could be real and the pawn shop just priced them low.
If you like them, try and find out if they are real.
Also you can check TJMaxx and SAMs club for good deals on Movados.
Tattoo Chef is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2012, 11:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mount prospect, Illinois, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 97
Post imported post

Tattoo Chef wrote:
Quote:
It's sketchy.
They could be real and the pawn shop just priced them low.
If you like them, try and find out if they are real.
Also you can check TJMaxx and SAMs club for good deals on Movados.
Very nice idea, Come to think of it I am almost 100% I saw one of these at TJMaxx. They where asking something close to 700 +/- I can't recall.

__________________
Time was made so everything does not happen at once.
Zax1108 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2012, 11:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
johnro6659's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charlestown, Massachusetts, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 2,393
Post imported post

Movado watches can sell fairly low $110.00 sounds like a Pawn Shop price to me they probably paid $50.00 for it. I have bought them preowned for a lot less $75.00!

The watch in your pic is the age old Classic Movado Museum Watch. Pretty basic watch with the liquid dot at the 12 position supposedly to be the sun at high noon?? What about Midnight? Never sounded right to me.

Anyway real Movados can be bought very cheap. New I have seen them as low as $275.00 on sale at some of the discount Etailers. Of course because of the very simple design they have been knocked off Ad nauseam almost as much as Rolex has been knocked off.

I study fakes all the time so I won't be taken in a sale. I see them for sale all over the place. You see the fake Movados at Flea Markets for as low as $5.00!! Usually they have really cheap quartz movements and inside the case back it's usually marked CHINA. I have to say because of the simple design they are easily copied and very hard to tell by looking at them. Even the weight can be deceiving. Now with Laser etching they can copy the case back design and serial numbers pretty good. The key in finding out if it's real or not is taking them apart.

__________________
Time is an equal opportunity employer. Each human being has exactly the same number of hours and minutes every day. Rich people can't buy more hours. Scientists can't invent new minutes. And you can't save time to spend it on another day. Even so, time is amazingly fair and forgiving. No matter how much time you've wasted in the past, you still have an entire tomorrow.
johnro6659 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-21-2013, 12:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Mount prospect, Illinois, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 97
Post imported post

johnro6659*
Yes. I got a 99-C6-1881 and found out the battery was dead so I opened it and the inside is far different then I though it was going to be. It's even an 8jewel movement. So I was kinda shocked to see that kind of work in a battery watch.
At any rate. I ended up buying all 3 of them, And went to another pawn shop and found the matching her's. so it made a lovelyanniversary gift to my parents. And I've opened them and they all read movado on the workings and just have more quality then a fake would have.
Thank you for your help.
__________________
Time was made so everything does not happen at once.
Zax1108 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-25-2013, 11:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Private, Texas, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 21
Post imported post

I wouldn't buy anything from a pawn shop. That's just me though.
Maakuo is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 12:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
johnro6659's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charlestown, Massachusetts, USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 2,393
Post imported post

Glad you got a deal, I Have bought a lot of items in pawn shops over the years and never was disappointed. Not many watches but a lot of musical equipment.

99% of the time if it's a solid metal back the movement will never have the name of the company stamped on it. You'll find a cheap Chinese or Japanese quartz mov and China stamped on the inside of the back. A few times I have seen knockoffs with Miyota mov. The only time you'll find the brand name on a movement is if it has an exhibition back. Then you'll have to go over it with a fine tooth comb. Most do not have the all detail the real deal has. The other thing is the details won't be as crisp. They use a lot of photo and laser etching for the lettering on the case backs. It will not be pronounced or as deep as the real deal. I saw a guy wearing a U Boat. I know from mine that the lettering on the side of the case is very crisp and deep his looked like it was just etched in the metal otherwise you would never tell.


As far as Movados go I see them all the time especially the older Quartz Museum watches. They sell for as low as $100.00 for the ones with a leather strap and the metal bracelet ones for no more than $200.00. These sold new pretty cheap any way compared to some other brand name watches. Movado uses ETA or Rhonda movements and marks them or has them marked MOVADO usually you can find ETA or Rhonda etched in very small letters. I forget when the trasitioned from one to the other but both would be real.

It's always good to carry a Jewelers loupe with you. I do and it's a great help when you shop used/preowned. It won't hurt if you ask if it can be verified by a jeweler but be prepared the guy will probably get pissed. Pawn shop owners don't like the fact you might be insinuating they are ripping you off or they might not know what they are doing. LOL I use my smart phone a lot when buying new or used. If you have a good phone you can compare prices and pictures of the real deal.

I have a Movado coming sometime soon. I don't know if it's real or fake but I would say more than likely it's real his ex wife gave it to him and she probably bought it at a high end jeweler. He is giving it to me for some work I did for him. It needs a battery so I will have it apart. I will take some pics of the mov with my macro lens and post them for reference.
__________________
Time is an equal opportunity employer. Each human being has exactly the same number of hours and minutes every day. Rich people can't buy more hours. Scientists can't invent new minutes. And you can't save time to spend it on another day. Even so, time is amazingly fair and forgiving. No matter how much time you've wasted in the past, you still have an entire tomorrow.
johnro6659 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-04-2016, 10:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
My Photos: View
Posts: 1
Smile movado fakes

Excellent advice and information. Here is a little more. If it says Swiss Movado Quartz on the lower 6 o'clock position, it is not necessarily a fake. It just means that the Movado was made before 2000. Also look at the pins if it has a metal band. Movado uses screw in type pins. The only true way is to remove the back of the watch. The back cover may be stamped china and thats okay because some of movados casebacks are made there. The insides where it counts though should say Zenith, movado, or swiss ETA, Ronda, or ETW swiss. Anything marked china, singapore, thailand, or Japan is fake.
jholl99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-26-2017, 01:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
My Photos: View
Posts: 1
Default

I got a Movado museum model 0606703 second hand,it's solid black except the stainless back.it looks good,it's marked Swiss Movado made at 6 and Swiss Movado made lower back.My jewelry removed the back,the movement is marked Japan movement!What do I have?Did someone remove the Swiss movt. And replace with cheap Japan movt.
Rayowen is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-01-2017, 07:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
#four's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: San Antonio, TX, , USA
My Photos: View
Posts: 11,016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayowen View Post
I got a Movado museum model 0606703 second hand,it's solid black except the stainless back.it looks good,it's marked Swiss Movado made at 6 and Swiss Movado made lower back.My jewelry removed the back,the movement is marked Japan movement!What do I have?Did someone remove the Swiss movt. And replace with cheap Japan movt.


Most likely it was made that way in the fake Movado factory in China


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Stowa Seatime | Stowa Seatime Prodiver | Tudor Pelagos | Tudor Black Bay | Squale 50 Atmos | Sinn U1T | Sinn U1 Professional | Sinn 142 ST II Space | Sinn Military Type III LE | Muhle Glashutte Terrasport | Muhle Glashutte Terranaut II | Damasko DA373 | Kazimon Funfhundert B | Nauticfish White Shark | LACO Squad Ocean | Omega SMP Ti | Tutima DI300 (2) | Hamilton BelowZero | H2O Orca (4) | Pacardt 1Thousand | Tutima Grand Classic 80th Anniversary LE (2) | Scubapro Ti 700 | Orient Mako USA II | Orient Bambino | Orient Flight | Orient M-Force Bravo | Orient M-Force EX04 | OrientStar Retro Future Airplane | Seiko SKX009J | Seiko SKX007J | Seiko Frankenmonster (4) | Helson SD40 | Helson SD42 Bronze | Citizen Skyhawk Blue Angels | Kemmner Seahorse | Aevig Valkyr | Mido Multifort 2 Crown | Tissot PRS516 Triple Seconds | Vostok Amphibian 1967 Bronze | Zodiac Oceanaire | Lum-Tec Combat B31 Bronze
#four is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-01-2017, 11:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
TeePro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Alberta
My Photos: View
Posts: 454
Default

Pawn shops are full of fakes. Sometimes they are aware, and sometimes they are ignorant. Do the checks listed above.
__________________
Omega Seamaster Professional, Tag Heuer Carrera calibre 5, Tag Heuer Aquaracer, Tag Heuer Formula One Grande Date, Oris Artelier pointer date, Oris BC4 Retrograde Day/Date, Victorinox Dive Master 500, Tissot Couturier Day/Date, Steinhart Ocean One Black, Marathon Navigator, 8x Seiko, 5x Citizen, Orient Bambino G2 V1, 4X Casio(2 G-shock), Getat Marina Militare, 2x Timex Expedition,
TeePro is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Forum Navigation

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Watch Freeks forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fake Citizens!? Deketa Citizen 12 12-31-2013 11:21 PM
what's the best way to dispose of a fake? MaLuCo General Watch Discussions: 2 04-27-2013 04:08 AM
fake watches cheng World News 5 01-20-2013 12:39 PM
Real or Fake? Rava Breitling 3 09-06-2012 01:43 AM
Women fake... Tera-Ram Humor 12 10-26-2009 07:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:37 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.