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Old 06-07-2019, 04:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well folks, I'm afraid I have to take you back yet again to my youth. 1976 or thereabouts. In high school back then there were two 'music' (and lifestyle) camps. 'Blues' and 'Disco'. Blues was an all encompassing term for music styles like, well, blues but also rock, hard rock, blues rock, etc. Everything the hated (by us) 'Disco' wasn't. The 'Disco' camp however was populated by 'hot chicks' while the 'Blues' camp was populated by more stout and less refined ladies

Anyhow, it was back then that I was introduced to a musician by the name of Rory Gallagher. That man was (and still is) the epitome of the true nature of blues. A simple and humble man by nature, always clad in a chequered lumberjack shirt, jeans and boots, long hair and playing the most beat up Strat I had ever seen. But boy, oh boy, could he play that guitar!

There's a popular urban legend that goes like this: after a reporter once asked the equally great Jimi Hendrix how it felt to be the greatest guitar player in the world he replied: "I don't know, ask Rory Gallagher".

I bought his latest posthumous 3 CD album (called simply Blues) a week ago, containing previously unreleased material (yeah, sure.....) but it really, really delivers. If you are a Rory fan, buy it!

Now picture a very young Frans at high school, pimples and greasy half long hair and all, dressed exactly like Rory.... And with a pair of glasses to boot


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Right on, man! I wonder what that actual Strat is worth, the 1961 model. You can plunk down around $5K for Fender's Rory Gallagher signature model which is a faithful replica of it. Apparently Rory's brother Donal brought Fender the original guitar to get things right, but still... a replica.
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Nice one Frans. I did a large (A0 size) painting of him as one of my high school art projects and gave it to a pal who was a wannabe rocker.

That original geet is something else and must be worth a stratospheric amount - pun intended. My brother in law has been a guitarist for the past 50 odd years and has numerous guitars, one of which is a 1958 sunburst Les Paul which for which collectors have offered silly money.
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Don't get me wrong Mienheer. I'm as big a fan of blues as the next Americano.
BB King, Albert Collins, Freddy King, etal. But my fave blues dude is Buddy Guy!!
A pal of mine "Buddy" Whittington played for John Mayall. Download Mayall
Eric Clapton Hideaway. Buddy is playing rythymn on that tune. Underworked for
sure. Buddy along with Eric and Rick Taylor have did stints as lead guitarists for
Mayall.
My background is in an entirely different genre. Bluegrass or Mountain music
if you will. I play a Martin D35 when called on. But my usual drill is accoustic elec-
tric bass. Now that venues allow electric basses. For many years I played a Kaye
Marquis upright, 5/8ths bass viol. But Carpal Tunnel Syndrome put the stop to
that.
I've played in 3 Bg bands since 1973. Now its just parlor jam sessions. As much
as I like blues, flat top Bg picking by greats like Tony Rice, Dan Crary, Norman
Blake rock my boat. Those guys have no gimmicks. What you see is what you get.
I just related to Atomic Tom I had purchased recently an Epiphone. Patterned
after Epiphone's 1931 Dreadnaught. Action is so so. But at least its solid wood and
not Laminated. Fair sustainablity. Acceptable stage presence.

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Love it when you take us back Frans, and love that guitar there
as well ! ..Frans, imagine if that was yours'?!!

Actually thought it was at first, and that you were showing us
a pic of it in a room right next to your other incredible treasures.
I swear you can almost hear the unforgettable notes, along with
tone coming from it.

Can imagine that CD set is really extraordinary too by the way !
Wow, thanks so much for giving us this great story about yourself,
and Mr. Gallagher, and also for the glimpse at that beauty too !!!
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Love it when you take us back Frans, and love that guitar there
as well ! ..Frans, imagine if that was yours'?!!

Actually thought it was at first, and that you were showing us
a pic of it in a room right next to your other incredible treasures.
I swear you can almost hear the unforgettable notes, along with
tone coming from it.

Can imagine that CD set is really extraordinary too by the way !
Wow, thanks so much for giving us this great story about yourself,
and Mr. Gallagher, and also for the glimpse at that beauty too !!!

Fender builds exact replicas of his guitar, part of their 'Signature' series. Over here it's shy over 4K Euro.

Even if I had unlimited resources and the original was for sale, let's say for one million I still wouldn't buy it because I don't deserve it. For the very same reason I will never buy an original vintage, pilot worn flight jacket. These object belong in a museum. I'm neither a guitar player nor a pilot so I will just be ashamed to own them. This is the Fender replica:


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Awesome guitar! Love me some RG.

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Frans:
I sent you a PM on a Netherlands female guitar phenom.
Her name is Karlijn Langendijk played a tune on You Tube
titled "Beat it".
Check out her video and see if you like it, please.
In the USA, and Texas you can't throw a stone in any
direction without hitting a guitarist. I've played for 68 years.
I've owned 2 guitars both Epiphones. George Thurgood is an
Epiphone player.

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What no luv for the Telecaster and Mustang? Leo Fender made those
iterations too.
IMHO the Strat in the hands of Joe Walsh is the Eta 7750 of solid body
guitars. Both Gretch and Gibson claim to have invented the "Humbucker"
to cancel the 60 cycle hum between twin pickups. I'm going with Gretch's
inventor, a Mr Buck.

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Fender builds exact replicas of his guitar, part of their 'Signature' series. Over here it's shy over 4K Euro.

Even if I had unlimited resources and the original was for sale, let's say for one million I still wouldn't buy it because I don't deserve it. For the very same reason I will never buy an original vintage, pilot worn flight jacket. These object belong in a museum. I'm neither a guitar player nor a pilot so I will just be ashamed to own them. This is the Fender replica:



Oh wow, that is amazing how they actually have replicas like that
Frans ! It's beyond cool how detailed it looks, and how it has
this lived in, already played feel. ..Would be so fun to just see at
the guitar shop !

However, totally see what you are saying about owning one sir.
Think it's just fine to appreciate the pictures of these beauties,
and of course appreciate the music of Rory Gallagher.
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Frans:
I sent you a PM on a Netherlands female guitar phenom.
Her name is Karlijn Langendijk played a tune on You Tube
titled "Beat it".
Check out her video and see if you like it, please.
In the USA, and Texas you can't throw a stone in any
direction without hitting a guitarist. I've played for 68 years.
I've owned 2 guitars both Epiphones. George Thurgood is an
Epiphone player.

Lou Snutt

I received a 'visitor message' from you, not a PM but that doesn't matter. Thank you for the heads up on Karlijn! The other guitar player you mentioned, I think you meant Yngwie Malmsteen, is Swedish. And I have great, great love for the Telecaster! A replica of that will someday be on one of our walls.

Now because you mentioned a female guitar player, please search For Tina S on YouTube and pick the Van Halen Eruption video. She was only 14 when this was recorded. Somehow my enclosed YouTube videos no longer work on this site.
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Enricosonic:
I viewed a film titled "Turn it up".
Subject was the difference in 50's and 60's axes cpmpared to millenial guitars.
Many of my fave guitarists weighing in on differences between the 2. If memory
serves me right Leo Fender guitars in that range are in the $200,000,00 category
A 61 Flame Burst Les Paul $300,000.00. How many Patek Phillipe Calatravas can
that buy?

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I viewed a film titled "Turn it up".
Subject was the difference in 50's and 60's axes cpmpared to millenial guitars.
Many of my fave guitarists weighing in on differences between the 2. If memory
serves me right Leo Fender guitars in that range are in the $200,000,00 category
A 61 Flame Burst Les Paul $300,000.00. How many Patek Phillipe Calatravas can
that buy?
Crazy money for those guitars. Even '70s era Fenders and Gibsons which weren't exactly known for QC are soaring higher and higher. I have a '70 Strat that is climbing in value to the point I'm more and more tempted to sell it. I mean it's not even that great a guitar. I have less valuable Fenders that are lighter, more comfortable, sound as good or better and that I play more. Why aren't vintage Rickenbackers appreciating at a higher rate? I can pick up a mid-'60s 360 for $4K!
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Speaking of the Rory Gallagher solid body guitar.
I doubt you are aware there is an American acoustic guitar named the Gallagher
Slightly larger than a parlor or 3/4th sized model. Made by the Gallagher Company
in Wartrace, Tenn. Played by Doc Watson often.

Our Bluegrass genre band competed in a band contest in Hugo, Ok against a band
from Missouri. Lead singer and guitarist played a Gallagher. THEY WON!!! Why? I
think we were better. I think we lost, in part because of that sweet sounding guitar
the lead singer was playing. IMO not just a hunch. It had stage presence, volume
(for its size) but mostly becaue of it's sustainability. Our lead singer wa playing a
grand old Martin D28.

Now there is a guitar, the Preston Thompson that IMO eclipses any Martin. Pricey
as a Rolex too.

I was playing a Kaye Marquis full sized Double Bass. Aka the "Bull Fiddle" Now many
Bg bands use electric basses.

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...Why aren't vintage Rickenbackers appreciating at a higher rate? I can pick up a mid-'60s 360 for $4K!
Seiko/Rolex analogy is what comes to mind. Is that a fair one?
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Frans:
Speaking of the Rory Gallagher solid body guitar.
I doubt you are aware there is an American acoustic guitar named the Gallagher
Slightly larger than a parlor or 3/4th sized model. Made by the Gallagher Company
in Wartrace, Tenn. Played by Doc Watson often.

Our Bluegrass genre band competed in a band contest in Hugo, Ok against a band
from Missouri. Lead singer and guitarist played a Gallagher. THEY WON!!! Why? I
think we were better. I think we lost, in part because of that sweet sounding guitar
the lead singer was playing. IMO not just a hunch. It had stage presence, volume
(for its size) but mostly becaue of it's sustainability. Our lead singer wa playing a
grand old Martin D28.

Now there is a guitar, the Preston Thompson that IMO eclipses any Martin. Pricey
as a Rolex too.

I was playing a Kaye Marquis full sized Double Bass. Aka the "Bull Fiddle" Now many
Bg bands use electric basses.

Lou Snutt

All that came second think they deserved the first spot It's a collectors market I guess. I want to buy a Retroflag GPi case. (Nintendo GameBoy homage).I've been waiting months for its release and what happened? It was released last night (my time) so when I woke up they were all sold out! Dang!

And lo and behold, within the hour they landed on eBay, starting at least EUR 30 above the original price, excluding EUR 22 shipping. The original price is US$ 69.99 including shipping. I have the money but refuse to buy one against that price. I will wait for the next batch.

Now for other collectables. If you are a collector with deep, deep pockets and want something to complement or finalise your collection, money is no object. They just fork out the 300K for the guitar they want. That's why I lose many an auction because I have a limit and other's do not. They just keep on bidding. I grit my teeth and move on.
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Seiko/Rolex analogy is what comes to mind. Is that a fair one?

That does spring to mind. And it's even more puzzling because them Rickenbackers are very sweet guitars aesthetically and have a distinctive sound according to those who know.
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Seiko/Rolex analogy is what comes to mind. Is that a fair one?
I'd have to say it probably isn't a fair a comparison to be frank. Considering that a Rickenbacker 360 for example, was and is a bit higher end than a Stratocaster, and cost a bit more when new in the mid-'60s and a bit more to this day, new off the showroom floor. The Rickenbackers are semi-hollow and have bound bodies and necks (with neck-through body design), carved tops, dual truss-rods, and stereo output (Ric-O-Sound). Strats are simpler, to their credit really, with bolt-on necks and it's understandable they'd be less expensive.

But I reckon it all comes down to provenance, history and the sheer number of music legends who've played Fenders and Gibsons. Plus a Strat is WAY more versatile than any Rickenbacker, and is at home in virtually any music genre. I play Fenders more than any brand, but there's nothing quite like the chiming tone of a Rickenbacker and enough big names in Rock history have chosen them and that's why I scratch my head at their relatively meager values. When friends come over and see my guitars hanging on the wall, they usually ooh and ahh over the Rick more than the others.

What Swiss brand that is/was Rolex's equal, is still making quality watches, yet now pales in comparison to current vintage Rolex values?
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