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Old 10-22-2013, 08:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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everal years ago, when I first contracted this illness known as horophilia, I unwittingly wrote what I now believe was my first Op/Ed article in the form of a post on a popular Internet watch forum. In it I dared to put a $200 Seiko dive watch up against a $4,000 OMEGA Planet Ocean — both watches I had owned — and declared the Seiko the better dive watch. I should have donned a Nomex suit for all the flaming responses I received. As with any enthusiast community, passions run high among watch nerds, and many forum members blasted my comparison as naive, ludicrous and partially blasphemous.
In the years since my inflammatory comparo, I’ve come to realize that there is so much more to a watch than its intended purpose. To ignore this is to be no better than your Timex-wearing uncle who scoffs at your Rolex, saying his $50 Timex keeps better time. “He just doesn’t get it”, you think. While my criteria for the comparison was objective — pedigree, in-house movement, capabilities, features and price — I will admit I was ignorant of aspects like innovation, finishing and prestige.

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I like this article a lot.



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I'm surprised no comments here.
This is a very well written article that I think puts our little obsession in a good perspective.



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Good points , my tastes have stayed the same in tool dive watches but my willingness to fund half of Switzerland's economy has changed dramatically. Now microbrands win me over even more so then the big wigs. If they ever start playing in the movement creating game I could see them doing even better.

Its a great problem to have of deciding which 500 to 1500 $ watch you want next knowing your choices are now almost endless.

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You nailed it dude. Well done.


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Well written! ****... Might have to get me one of those Seikos!
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Agreed.. A well written article..
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I read article that a couple times over.

Since I started seriously collecting I always thought the more expensive the watch was and where it was made the better it was. My watch repair guy schooled me in the way to buy a watch. He said buy what you like 1st whether it's a $20.00 Timex or a $10,000.00 Cartier. He showed me 50yo watches he was working on that were cheap ones back in the day that still worked flawlessly with only minimal maintenance, he showed me practically brand new big name brands that cost big bucks to maintain/service and they didn't keep time as good. He himself swore by Timex, he sold and repaired every brand under the sun but wore a Timex religiously. I actually have a Timex he gave me. He told me I'll never need another watch again! LOL I have no clue of the age but I would say late 40s early 50s mechanical movement. I wind it it works and I have had it since 1985. I never had a problem with it. I would wear it more but it's tiny compared to the watches I like to wear these days. My new watch reapir guy is the same way when it comes to watches and what to buy even he doesn't own a high end watch he wear an Invicta most of the time sometimes an old Benarus. Neither one of them recommend paying more than $200.00 for a watch.
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Of course you can and should always buy what you personally like and what you personally can afford. Ultimately what I or others thinks or says about your watch means absolutely nothing.

The one thing you will never be able to convince some people of is this -
Does my Kia Optima sporty styled car get me from point A to B just like a Lamborghini Countach does? Do BOTH of them have 4 wheels, a steering wheel, an engine, lights, doors, paint, etc? 100% YES.
** But are the 2 automobiles, which ultimately move/roll from one place to another by the power of an engine the same thing or equal? 100% NO and I do not think anyone could ever honestly say anything different.

The same is true for watches. Do they all tell time? Yes. But are they the same - No and not in my opinion. I do think there is a big "grey area of quality" in the UNDER $750-1000 price range where there are a lot of similarities and equal comparisons that can be made. But there is unquestionably a value in some of the higher end watches that comes from a wide range of factors including (but not limited to) - R&D, materials used, movements used, how they are produced, etc. Are there exceptions and examples of overpriced models without justification - OF COURSE, but that happens in every single industry and product.

And finally, to me - there IS a real world value to history, prestige, innovation, name recognition, proven high level of quality, and long term value retention.
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everal years ago, when I first contracted this illness known as horophilia, I unwittingly wrote what I now believe was my first Op/Ed article in the form of a post on a popular Internet watch forum. In it I dared to put a $200 Seiko dive watch up against a $4,000 OMEGA Planet Ocean — both watches I had owned — and declared the Seiko the better dive watch. I should have donned a Nomex suit for all the flaming responses I received. As with any enthusiast community, passions run high among watch nerds, and many forum members blasted my comparison as naive, ludicrous and partially blasphemous.
In the years since my inflammatory comparo, I’ve come to realize that there is so much more to a watch than its intended purpose. To ignore this is to be no better than your Timex-wearing uncle who scoffs at your Rolex, saying his $50 Timex keeps better time. “He just doesn’t get it”, you think. While my criteria for the comparison was objective — pedigree, in-house movement, capabilities, features and price — I will admit I was ignorant of aspects like innovation, finishing and prestige.

Read further here: http://gearpatrol.com/2013/10/22/opinion-best-watch/
Very interesting article!

Points out that the "best" is based on criteria used ... most people have different factors they judge for a watch as they buy more and go from looks only to movement, where made, reputation, etc. + what is pleasing to your eye!

At least in my case the author is right. When I was a kid, I wanted a Mickey Mouse watch, which of course I broke with in a week. Then I thought digital watches were cool. When I could I bought several different ones. Then I felt that Seiko quartz was elegant, beautiful and a wonderful watch to have. I got one for my birthday- a two tone Rolex style with white simple face with day and date.

Then I noticed a friend of mine was wearing really sharp looking watches. I asked to look at his ... it was a Tag Heuer diver model 2000. Very elegant and a beautiful design for my eye. He owned a white face one so I bought a black face one. And yes it got really neat compliments which I ate up. I started to talk to horologists when I need a new battery change. They gave me their opinions and I found pmwf on the web and started seeing more what was on the market. That lead to reading others opinions like there were other well made movements besides ETA. I must admit I continued to buy watches, mostly automatic with ETA movements, but my eyes were re-opened to the non-Swiss world.

My old Seiko still had a place in my heart. In fact when the band broke along with the clasp I contacted Seiko in New Jersey, bought a new 2 tone band from them. Believe it or not, the perfect fit jubilee replacement Seiko band is not continually made. My 25 year old Seiko's band was no longer available from Seiko. They did have a non-jubilee band that I was assured would fit that watch. I bought it.

I could go on but my watch taste has evolved from the Mickey Mouse to chronos and GMT models. I learned that CSC chronometers with chronometer grade movements are not perfectly accurate. They are usually the priciest Swiss but once you leave the jewelry store they really are effected by temperature, need almost continual wear to get used to owner's lifestyle, and may need regular adjustments, depending on one's lifestyle, even the way one puts them down when not wearing them.

Any way the article really hit home with me. Yes I have a bigger collection that I could imagine. I don't think about it much and when I do I think the collection really shows me growing up and my open mindedness.
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I'd like to see a side by side "no logo" comparison of some $500 watches up against some $2000 watches and see what wins. I'd bet many well made $500 watches would come out on top half the time.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Great read, I enjoyed it. At this stage of my life, I'm driving toward a diverse collection that includes both micros that maximize the quality/$ ratio as well as some established brands that have some history and heritage. Mostly I appreciate the opportunity to continue to learn & enjoy the ride.
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Of course you can and should always buy what you personally like and what you personally can afford. Ultimately what I or others thinks or says about your watch means absolutely nothing.

The one thing you will never be able to convince some people of is this -
Does my Kia Optima sporty styled car get me from point A to B just like a Lamborghini Countach does? Do BOTH of them have 4 wheels, a steering wheel, an engine, lights, doors, paint, etc? 100% YES.
** But are the 2 automobiles, which ultimately move/roll from one place to another by the power of an engine the same thing or equal? 100% NO and I do not think anyone could ever honestly say anything different.

The same is true for watches. Do they all tell time? Yes. But are they the same - No and not in my opinion. I do think there is a big "grey area of quality" in the UNDER $750-1000 price range where there are a lot of similarities and equal comparisons that can be made. But there is unquestionably a value in some of the higher end watches that comes from a wide range of factors including (but not limited to) - R&D, materials used, movements used, how they are produced, etc. Are there exceptions and examples of overpriced models without justification - OF COURSE, but that happens in every single industry and product.

And finally, to me - there IS a real world value to history, prestige, innovation, name recognition, proven high level of quality, and long term value retention.
between the article and your analogy, this is how i sees it-

the best watch or the best car is the one that best fits the needs of the owner. that Lambo would be great to have, but you can't take your kids to soccer practice and ballet lessons in it...
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