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Old 01-20-2020, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Be careful when purchasing from Gray Market or Ebay

Check out this video. It's unreal what they can do with fakes ....Omega Seamaster fakes!


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I caught the fake as soon as I saw the movement and it only took a glance, when trying to spot a fake ALWAYS look towards the balance wheel! and more precisely the hairspring and hairspring adjuster... They either can't yet or don't replicate those very well and I can spot them from a mile away!
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I wouldn't be worried about the large Gray Market dealers as much as the watches up on forums or Ebay!
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I said the same thing in another thread but it applies here as well...

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For me, eBay is a must for sourcing the Accutron parts I need to repair Accutron 214 watches, without eBay I wouldn't be able to repair Accutrons without charging big money to do it...

eBay still has it's uses but if you're going to try to buy a watch off eBay you really have to know what to look at and ask for pictures of it, And if they can't give you those pictures then it's always a hard pass unless you feel like gambling and you're feeling lucky that day!
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I said the same thing in another thread but it applies here as well...
Photos are useful for sure and because the fakes are getting so good, buyers really need to know how to spot them. The differences can be very subtle
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Photos are useful for sure and because the fakes are getting so good, buyers really need to know how to spot them. The differences can be very subtle
Always look to the balance wheel, It's a dead giveaway every time! They just can't come close to the real thing and you can just about see the dif with the naked eye, even with the watch running...
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The obvious factor...fakes are always a thicker watch than original.

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You weren't kidding Pete !

Everything from the look of the dial, and lume patterns, to the helium
release red ring, and even movement are seemingly identical.

Then it's not until they get up really close, and magnify things that
you see some of the differences. Honestly is crazy, and imagine how
much more identical the watches will get in the coming years too.

It's scary. ..Thanks a ton !
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You weren't kidding Pete !

Everything from the look of the dial, and lume patterns, to the helium
release red ring, and even movement are seemingly identical.

Then it's not until they get up really close, and magnify things that
you see some of the differences. Honestly is crazy, and imagine how
much more identical the watches will get in the coming years too.

It's scary. ..Thanks a ton !
Well, as I said, always look to the balance wheel as you don't even need to magnify it to see the difference and spot the fake every time, that's assuming you have good enough eyesight or a decent picture of it...
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When in doubt purchase direct from an Omega AD!
I wish not all models where copied, I really like this model.

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When in doubt purchase direct from an Omega AD!
I wish not all models where copied, I really like this model.

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It really sucks when you have a model of watch that they make a fake of and most people can't tell that you are wearing the real thing!
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When in doubt purchase direct from an Omega AD!
I wish not all models where copied, I really like this model.

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I'm looking seriously at that model or the Blue dial, and also the larger 43mm no-date model which is Titanium!
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I'm looking seriously at that model or the Blue dial, and also the larger 43mm no-date model which is Titanium!
It is a great watch and you couldn't go wrong with one!

I mean a Co-axial escapement! It doesn't get much better than that!

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Here is the newer 2019 Omega Seamaster
Chrono Diver.... Really looks sharp!


I stopped at South Coast Plaza Mall, Omega AD....

I had to try this new Omega .....

Case size is at 44m
Retail pricing is $ 7450.00 tax not included.

This will be hard to make a fake copy...

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This will be hard to make a fake copy...
You underestimate what the fakers can do with modern technology, at arm's length and unmagnified it can be very difficult to tell them apart for the inexperienced!
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Well, as I said, always look to the balance wheel as you don't even need to magnify it to see the difference and spot the fake every time, that's assuming you have good enough eyesight or a decent picture of it...

You make a great point Accutronitis, but just wonder how closely people
really look at details like that. ..Can imagine so many wouldn't even know
where to look so closely, and then have that excellent eyesight like you said.
Add in the perfection of that balance wheel detail in the future, and wow,
it will be even tougher.
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In my opinion if you get roped into buying a fake it was you own mistake by not going to a AD. I would never ever purchase any watch of notable value from eBay your just asking for trouble. When it comes to fakes the people i know who have them bought them voluntarily, I've never heard of anyone personally get "ripped off" from a fake...yet
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Ok, Ok, I think we all get your point, I don't think the triple size font was needed... lol
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You underestimate what the fakers can do with modern technology, at arm's length and unmagnified it can be very difficult to tell them apart for the inexperienced!
This will never affect me anyways.....lol
I buy direct from AD.

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I'm looking seriously at that model or the Blue dial, and also the larger 43mm no-date model which is Titanium!
I also tried the Titanium but for the price I am swaying to the newer model 2019 SMP Diver Chrono...

Here is the comparison from both models..



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