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Old 05-10-2019, 11:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default First impressions on Phoibos watches

Ill do a more in depth review when i get a day off, but in the meantime i wanted to give my initial impression of the two Phoibos watches I ordered, the Oceanmaster and the Wavemaster.

The Oceanmaster is Phoibos's heavy duty 1000m diver. $299 brand new. Helium relief valve, sapphire crystal with AR coating, ceramic bezel insert, screw down crown, NH35 seiko movement... The usual.
This watch is pretty heavy. Feels very solid.
The bracelet has a double pinch clasp, and more importantly, threaded pin links! (Not sucky cotter pins or even worse, sleeved pins)
Every bracelet should have threaded links.
There is a tiny bit of play in the bezel and crown when pulled out, but nothing too noticeable. Honestly, this watch checks a ton of diver boxes for me and comes in well under budget for what it offers. In the interest of full disclosure, the tolerances feel just a little tighter on my deep blue watches, but those were also twice the price when new.

The wavemaster is similar to the Oceanmaster spec wise except it's 300meter WR instead of 1000m and no helium release valve. $259 brand new)Between the two, I think i like the Wavemaster best. The engineer braceler is very nice and again, threaded pin links! (Why doesn't every company use these?!?)

There are a few things that separate these from my more expensive watches like deep blue, oris, and Seiko (the watches that are at least 2 times the price or more)
The bracelet and case aren't finished QUITE as smoothly. It's not a huge difference, but with my hands on both I can tell a slightly rougher finish on the phoibos watches.
There is just a tiny bit of play in the bezel and crown action. Again, it is VERY minimal, but directly compared in hand to more expensive watches, I can tell.
From other phoibos reviews I had heard that their initial batches were light on the lume... That has definitely been corrected. Both my watches shine with near Seiko-like brightness (not quite, but reasonably close.)

Overall, i personally feel you are getting a fair amount of watch for the money.
Signed crown, sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, solid link bracelet and endlinks (with threaded pins)
If you don't mind the seiko movement (i don't) then its really a pretty good deal, in my humble opinion.
I think the overall fit and finish on these is good. Ill get some close up shots for the actual reviews , but I personally feel as far as case, dial, hands, and indices go its on par with my deep blue watches.

Phoibos started production in 2018 so I'm definitely interested in keeping a loose eye on future offerings. I like what im seeing thus far.


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Old 05-11-2019, 02:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So neat hearing your impressions on these two here like this WM !
You can see there is so much to like about both watches, and that
the bang for the buck factor is off the charts really. ..Honestly is
difficult from here to choose a favorite.

You have both the modern, and vintage covered. It's just a matter
of choosing what mood you are in on a given day. It's a win win !!

Thanks a lot for the look ! ..Big congratulations on adding them
into the mix ! ENJOY sir !!!
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Prefer the Wavemaster and it looks well suited to the super engineer bracelet. Enjoy every minute
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I feel like their next bit of fine tuning should be on the caseback and bracelet finish. The edges of the engineer bracelet are a little sharper the engineer bracelet from the deep blue sea ram I had. Not terribly sharp, but not as nicely finished. When you run your finger across the engraving on the caseback, you can feel a bit of sharpness as well. Again, not bad, but definitely not as refined as my more expensive watches.
That being said, for $300 and $259 brand new, I don't really fault them too much.
My tisell watches were a little more polished to the touch and they are $225 new, so i know that level of refinement is possible at that price point. Either way, still a good value and phoibos is only 1 year into production so we have to give them a little time to tighten things up.

This time around i decided i was going to stick to more affordable watches after my Oris fiasco. (Pro tip....dont buy watches you cant afford to repair and service just because your getting a good deal on it!)

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Prefer the Wavemaster and it looks well suited to the super engineer bracelet. Enjoy every minute
Yea..the more i wear the Wavemaster, the more i prefer it. I really love the look.


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Oh dear I wish I hadn't seen those, they both look great I can't believe the specs for the price point especially on that 1k diver.
I am trying to have a watch purchase free year and this post has just made it a whole lot more difficult.
On a more serious note I really like the look of both those pieces but with an edge towards the 1k diver.
Thanks for sharing.


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Oh dear I wish I hadn't seen those, they both look great I can't believe the specs for the price point especially on that 1k diver.
I am trying to have a watch purchase free year and this post has just made it a whole lot more difficult.
On a more serious note I really like the look of both those pieces but with an edge towards the 1k diver.
Thanks for sharing.


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It was close for me, but the patterned dial and general vintage-y look of the Wavemaster pushed it to the top, but only by a small margin.
The Oceanmaster look like it took a lot of cues from citizen and deep blue divers. Especially the hands and bezel.

They really are a lot of watch for the money.
Not without their issues of course, but the little nit pics I had are pretty minor, and for their price point, its not unexpected to find things imperfect.

Honestly, my expectations were set around deep blue and seikos of a similar price, which i think phoibos pulled off reasonably well.
After getting my wifes watch in and seeing one up close I had no concerns ordering both of these for myself.

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Lume shot from the Wavemaster
Took this when i got into the apartment after shift this morning


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Lume shot from the Wavemaster
Took this when i got into the apartment after shift this morning


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Great lume too I can't find anything not too like.

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Thanks for the writeup! The Wave is a looker for sure.

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