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Old 12-05-2018, 06:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The #1 rated quality rip off Rolex watch you can purchase is one from the vaunted NOOB factory.


I don't know how Rolex or these other high end Swiss companies allow them to operate without suing the crap out of them, yet here we are.


They even have a line of their watches on Amazon, with a cheesy looking crown to replace the Rolex Crown, and instead of Rolex, it say's NOOB!


Unbelievable!
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The link to the original I posted is now down, but they have a new one on Amazon with several different models, all supposedly not including the Rolex logo (hmmm?).

They have upped their game and now use 904 stainless steel, and have an option for using a genuine ETA 2836 movement or a Rolex 3135 Asian clone.

If these didn't have the counterfeit Rolex branding on them, they could legitimately sell as well as Tissels, for a couple of extra hundred bucks get 904 stainless in a case and bracelet indistinguishable from the real deal, with a reliable Swiss ETA movement in them?

If I wasn't tired of the look of a sub (I own one, a 16610) with the Mercedes hands and Cyclops, and knew I wasn't going to get a complete rip off one, I would be tempted. I did like the two Tissels I had, but not that much where I didn't flip them.

Funny these watches are made in China, and the Chinese are the largest customers of Rolex Sports watches now, one would think the average Chinese guy you purchases a real Rolex would be feeling rather strange now, knowing about 2/3rds of the watches he sees on the street that looks identical to his, are $500 fakes?

When I was at the Wynn Hotel/Casino in Vegas last year I went into the large Rolex store they had there. They didn't have one Submariner, nor Explorers, the only sports watches they had was a couple of Yacht Masters, both rode gold models. I asked the salesperson what's up with this, he took me to one side and on the QT told me all of the Sports models are going to Asia, and Rolex refuses to up their production to fill the demand elsewhere.

It was off season there at the time, August, and he told me when the season starts in fall the Hotel gets tons of Asians and they flock into the store looking for the sports models, and when not seeing any, pick up a Datejust instead, demanding to pay full price, or else they think they are buying fakes or returns. This why this store gives ZERO discounts on their watches.

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The link to the original I posted is now down, but they have a new one with several different models, all supposedly not including the Rolex logo (hmmm?).

They have upped their game and now use 904 stainless steel, and have an option for using a genuine ETA 2836 movement or a Rolex 3135 Asian clone.

If these didn't have the counterfeit Rolex branding on them, they could sell as well as Tissels, for a couple of extra hundred bucks get 904 stainless in a case and bracelet indistinguishable from the real deal, with a reliable Swiss ETA movement in them?

If I wasn't tired of the look of a sub with the Mercedes hands and knew I wasn't going to get a complete rip off one, I would be tempted. I did like the two Tissels I had, but not that much where I didn't flip them.

https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Sap...ay&sr=8-2&th=1


I'm equally tired but more because of the sheer endless parade of completely effortless 'homages'. If you delve a bit deeper you will find (mainly Chinese based) companies that supply 'vintage' Rolex homages. With a choice of dial options, including sterile. So no markings at all. And NO Mercedes hands if you chose so. Pencil hands (military version).

I guess Rolex only fights replicas but to go to court for this poses a serious challenge in some countries. In Indonesia you can find Apple iPhone clones galore but Apple doesn't take steps. They will however, fight endless battles in court against a well known South Korean maker of smart phones because they are high profile.
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:26 AM   #24 (permalink)
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i dont mind homages much...ive had a few. heck, i still have a few with my tisell and steinhart. not a huge fan of mercedes hands though.

i am a little surprised however, at the sheer volume of rolex clones nowdays. and i dont mean actual homages that maybe look mostly like a rolex yet having a few differences, but watches that are basically trying to be a 1:1 rolex or tudor with the only difference being dial text.

granted, my tisell is basically one of those, and my steinhart fairly close, but dang...when i found tisell a few years ago there didnt seem to be nearly as many rolex clones so readily available like there are today. Cheap too! its amazing how many asian brands you can get with a miyota or seiko movement, sapphire crystal, and solid link/endlink bracelet for barely $100.



But in all honesty though... clones (not replicas) dont really bother me.

heres the flip side to that argument...tons of people absolutely up in arms about "homage" watches (the biggest reason i very rarely visit WUS anymore) yet happily purchase watches using sellita movements... a direct clone of ETA movements.

sure, the patent ran out, but thats why everyone can make rolex clones...the design patents on all those old brands are pretty much long expired meaning anyone can copy the design.



the sellita sw200, seagull ST2130, and Hangzhou 6300 movements are ALL copies of the ETA 2824-2, and the majority of parts in all 3 of those movements are interchangable with an ETA movement....yet nobody bats an eye at the vast number of microbrands using sellita movements to get their "swiss made" stamp on the dial.



why Amazon is allowing these noob watches to appear on their site when it is clearly indicated that they are replicas i have no idea...i read through some of the reviews and saw some where people actually asked whether they could get the noob logo on the dial and the response was that they only had the Rolex branded versions...so people are clearly aware that noob has found a way to mainstream their sales of fake watches using amazon.
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i dont mind homages much...ive had a few. heck, i still have a few with my tisell and steinhart. not a huge fan of mercedes hands though.

i am a little surprised however, at the sheer volume of rolex clones nowdays. and i dont mean actual homages that maybe look mostly like a rolex yet having a few differences, but watches that are basically trying to be a 1:1 rolex or tudor with the only difference being dial text.

granted, my tisell is basically one of those, and my steinhart fairly close, but dang...when i found tisell a few years ago there didnt seem to be nearly as many rolex clones so readily available like there are today. Cheap too! its amazing how many asian brands you can get with a miyota or seiko movement, sapphire crystal, and solid link/endlink bracelet for barely $100.



But in all honesty though... clones (not replicas) dont really bother me.

heres the flip side to that argument...tons of people absolutely up in arms about "homage" watches (the biggest reason i very rarely visit WUS anymore) yet happily purchase watches using sellita movements... a direct clone of ETA movements.

sure, the patent ran out, but thats why everyone can make rolex clones...the design patents on all those old brands are pretty much long expired meaning anyone can copy the design.



the sellita sw200, seagull ST2130, and Hangzhou 6300 movements are ALL copies of the ETA 2824-2, and the majority of parts in all 3 of those movements are interchangable with an ETA movement....yet nobody bats an eye at the vast number of microbrands using sellita movements to get their "swiss made" stamp on the dial.



why Amazon is allowing these noob watches to appear on their site when it is clearly indicated that they are replicas i have no idea...i read through some of the reviews and saw some where people actually asked whether they could get the noob logo on the dial and the response was that they only had the Rolex branded versions...so people are clearly aware that noob has found a way to mainstream their sales of fake watches using amazon.
As far as Amazon goes, it's all about the "Benjamins Baby" nothing more, nothing less.
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Ginault is now tied into this replica/fake mess. The owner of a company that was sellling, very good, fake replicas is now tied into the company, Ginault; via a blog by someone known as deepdweller. Here is the link(if I am not allowed to post this, mods please remove it and accept my apology):

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Ginault is now tied into this replica/fake mess. The owner of a company that was sellling, very good, fake replicas is now tied into the company, Ginault; via a blog by someone known as deepdweller. Here is the link(if I am not allowed to post this, mods please remove it and accept my apology):

https://lexic.co/deepdweller/exposin...thomas-caddell


He’s not tied in. He’s the same person. He’s a serial liar and fraudster.
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i dont mind homages much...ive had a few. heck, i still have a few with my tisell and steinhart. not a huge fan of mercedes hands though.

i am a little surprised however, at the sheer volume of rolex clones nowdays. and i dont mean actual homages that maybe look mostly like a rolex yet having a few differences, but watches that are basically trying to be a 1:1 rolex or tudor with the only difference being dial text.

granted, my tisell is basically one of those, and my steinhart fairly close, but dang...when i found tisell a few years ago there didnt seem to be nearly as many rolex clones so readily available like there are today. Cheap too! its amazing how many asian brands you can get with a miyota or seiko movement, sapphire crystal, and solid link/endlink bracelet for barely $100.



But in all honesty though... clones (not replicas) dont really bother me.

heres the flip side to that argument...tons of people absolutely up in arms about "homage" watches (the biggest reason i very rarely visit WUS anymore) yet happily purchase watches using sellita movements... a direct clone of ETA movements.

sure, the patent ran out, but thats why everyone can make rolex clones...the design patents on all those old brands are pretty much long expired meaning anyone can copy the design.



the sellita sw200, seagull ST2130, and Hangzhou 6300 movements are ALL copies of the ETA 2824-2, and the majority of parts in all 3 of those movements are interchangable with an ETA movement....yet nobody bats an eye at the vast number of microbrands using sellita movements to get their "swiss made" stamp on the dial.



why Amazon is allowing these noob watches to appear on their site when it is clearly indicated that they are replicas i have no idea...i read through some of the reviews and saw some where people actually asked whether they could get the noob logo on the dial and the response was that they only had the Rolex branded versions...so people are clearly aware that noob has found a way to mainstream their sales of fake watches using amazon.
Can't patent a design.

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