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| Posted: Thu Nov 22nd, 2012 04:32 pm |
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valuablez Watch Freek
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Hello, I have an old Cyma and I can't seem to find any information on it, some help would really be appreciated. Thank you in advance, here is a pic of the watch. Attachment: _DSC0029.jpg (Downloaded 33 times)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2012 08:29 am |
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crotchhasteeth Adopt an old watch today! 
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Hey Valuablez, Welcome to the forum. The watch you have is actually a very nice swiss watch. I can tell you something of the watch, but with out seeing the case back , and the movement, it will be hard to give you concrete info. The watch you have LOOKS very similar to the military grade watches after WW1 .Your watch likely has a workhorse 15j swiss mechanical movement in it. It probably has a breguet hairspring , with a fixed stud carrier adjustable balance. The jewels back then were more often than not real rubis and sometimes , even real sapphire or diamond. Its a very nice movement . The dial on your watch is likely enameled , by hand. Also the numbers appear to be radium filled, which was the type of lume the used to make watches glow back in those days.As i said, its possible that it may have been intended for use in the military , as Cyma made signal corps watches for many European countries. Many Cyma watches made it to our shores during that period. Id guess your watch was made in the late 1930's to early 40's. But with out opening the case , and seeing the movement and case back, i cant tell you for sure. Average value of the watch will vary with its age ,case type, movement type , and of course, condition. Your watch case is chromed base metal, likely with a steel back. Also your watch , as i said, is likely a 15 jewel. Your watch is , i would guess with out more pics, in Good average condition . I dont know if it works, but is it does, it will be worth 40-50 dollars US. In mid range, cleaned up great to excellent working condition, that watch will sell for about 90 or so dollars . Mint to near mint working condition will fetch 115 or more dollars on average . But , as with any watch, it all comes down to what a person likes, and how much hes willing to pay to get it. So take those prices as a advisement , nothing more. Some people pay a premium for a watch with some history to it. Or rarity . If you post more pics, ill be glad to do more research for you. Rod
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2012 11:14 am |
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Abdullah Watch Freek 
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Welcome. I have an old Cyma watch too. I am think of sending this too you too Rod  
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2012 03:17 pm |
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valuablez Watch Freek
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Thank you for the reply, Here is some pics of the insides of the watch. Attachment: _DSC0043.JPG (Downloaded 25 times)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2012 03:19 pm |
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valuablez Watch Freek
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Here is a pic with the marking 667 on the bottom right of the watch. Attachment: _DSC0045.JPG (Downloaded 25 times)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23rd, 2012 03:24 pm |
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valuablez Watch Freek
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And yes the watch does work. Thank you
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24th, 2012 06:54 am |
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crotchhasteeth Adopt an old watch today!
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Okee doke, Heres what i have found on your watch... Cyma , was a company owned and supplied my Henri Sandoz watch group. Sister companies included Tavannes , Bijou , Tacy, and Lisca. Sandoz watch movements were the movement to put into your swiss watch back then. I was wrong about the watch likely being a 15 jewel. Though not by much, as Early Sandoz models used 6-7 jewel watch movements, very much like small pocket watch movements. But as Sandoz company did research and development to advance their watches, they increased jewel counts as watches got better Your watch movement is a very early model Cyma caliber or REF#010. It took forever to research it lol. Basically The less jewels it has , the earlier the watch was made. They Made many different variations to this watch movement. Your watch is a variant with only 6 jewels in it, compared to the standard of 7. Why this is that way, they dont say. Your watch has gold pinion settings in at least 10 places that i can see. They made millions of these movements. The first designed and produced version of the movement was 1925 in a pocket watch. Big Luxury brands like Alpina Used this same movement .As did mathey -Tissot company , and Dugena . They were making almost the same movement, but with additions in it , way into the 1950's. They added shock protection after ww2 . So i am fairly certain still that your watch was made in the 1930's. The prices i said are still roughly the same as what i said in the previous post. I tried to find serial number info, but none was available in any book or online resource i could find. Here are the stats on the movement. Cyma 010: Features manual wind sub second Data: 10.5''', Dm= 23.3mm, Do= 23.7mm H= 4.0mm F= 0.4mm T= 1.5mm 7/15 jewels f = 18000 A/h power reserve 40h Balance staff U134 / U127 single/double roller Stem W53 Main spring: Zf1263, 1.55 x 8.5 x 0.09 x 280mm Hands 1.30 x 0.85 / 0.18mm Best wishes, Rod Attachment: Sandoz 010.jpg (Downloaded 22 times)
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