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| Posted: Thu Feb 23rd, 2012 09:22 pm |
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1stiski Watch Freek
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Hello to the group.. I have become the keeper of an old watch.. This was my wife's mothers Great Grandfathers watch ( and my mother in law is in late 60's). I can't find any name on this watch,, I havent opened it up at all except for the cover over the watch face. Any helpful information with how I can find out more on the watch will be helpful On the front watch face cover,, looks like there was a crest of some sort at one time, its very worn ![]() Opened up, the inside is in very nice shape ![]() Another View ![]() Keys ![]() Imprint on inside of face ![]() Close up ![]() Thanks... Rob.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23rd, 2012 09:53 pm |
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toecutter Watch Freek
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I think you might have to crack the case on this to figure it out. These key wound pieces can be quite old.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23rd, 2012 10:47 pm |
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1stiski Watch Freek
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I'll have to study the case a bit more before I attempt to open it.. I'm thinking i'm just missing something obvious to open it.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23rd, 2012 10:50 pm |
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toecutter Watch Freek
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Find a watch guy that is familiar with pocket watches. He'll know how to open it. Don't wreck something that might be valuable.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24th, 2012 12:27 am |
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tinknocker Watch Freek
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There's some links here where you can do some searching. Is this an American made watch? or Swiss, German,etc http://forums.watchuseek.com/f295/trademark-look-ups-364475.html
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24th, 2012 05:17 am |
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ernst Watch Freek
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Just a guess but the H.B. on the inside cover would they be a makers hallmarks ? If they are you could look them up , where I'm not sure but I bet google could help . Good luck and nice watch
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24th, 2012 05:49 am |
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crotchhasteeth Adopt an old watch today!
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Hey 1stiski, I agree with the others. You cant go by the case to have a clue whats going on inside. Even the watch dial can be made by someone else, and no help what so ever identifying the watch. Its not hard to open a watch case up. I have the feeling your watch is a touch older than 1850 though. That said, you will probably have to use a case knife and pry it open. Doing it gently and slowly will minimize the danger of any damage. Use you eyes , and a magnifier of some sort, and scan the rim around the back of the watch. You WILL find the area where others have pried open your pocket watch. A watch that old has been opened hundreds of times i am sure for basic servicing . Once you open the watch be VERY careful to remove the back slowly , as dirt and grime can fall off the edges of the case back, into the movement ! But do not be afraid to look under the hood, this is a must in collecting ! Just be careful. Take some pics of the movement from different angles . Even the movement may be essentially unmarked. You may have to identify the movement by its type and construction. Just a guess from the pictures . Id say it was made in the early 1800s { maybe 1830 ish} it looks to be a sterile faced porcelain dial, very common for ebauche movements made by the swiss and french for export. The watch looks European . I wouldnt be surprised if it were a key wind and set swiss bar movement. 1-7 jewel. Please post more when you get more pics ! Rod
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 07:10 pm |
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1stiski Watch Freek
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Well after much study and a magnifying glass helping me decide, I found the area to open the back..![]() Beautiful details under that lid: ![]() The inner workings... Written on the workings: Independent Watch Co., FREDONIA, NY.. with the numbers: 121476 ![]() ![]() Close up of the movement,,, Very cool ![]() THE Key wind: ![]() Time adjustment: ![]() SO whats the verdict on this watch.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 07:18 pm |
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1stiski Watch Freek
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Found this tidbit. http://www.oldwatch.com/Independ.html http://www.oldwatch.com/Museum/ind18s11jkwhampdenmovcu.JPG
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 07:22 pm |
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1stiski Watch Freek
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AND more: http://www.twainquotes.com/FredoniaWatch.html
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 07:23 pm |
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IVXX 4:20
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Wow! That is very cool. They were only in business for 6 years. Could mean that they are rare and expensive.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 07:28 pm |
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1stiski Watch Freek
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AND more: http://www.pocketwatchrepair.com/histories/fredonia.html
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 07:31 pm |
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IVXX 4:20
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Is that the "Mark Twain" you have? By the description it sounds like it. I would definitely have it appraised.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 07:37 pm |
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tinknocker Watch Freek
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Very nice, It's fun searching for the info and actually finding it, isn't it?
____________________ There is only one teacher. What is that teacher? Life itself. And of course each one of us is a manifestation of life ; we couldn't be anything else. Now life happens to be both a severe and an endlessly kind teacher. its the only authority that you need to trust. =========================================== |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25th, 2012 09:30 pm |
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1stiski Watch Freek
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No not the Mark Twain model... That one has it written on the inside of the movement... Pretty cool to aquire some knowledge on this watch.
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