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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 03:31 am |
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lawman0210 Watch Freek
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I looked to get the perfect deal on a marathon CSAR for over 9 months. I owned a Tsar and loved it. I love automactic watches but they are very expensive and not nearly as dependable. I bought a new Csar and some times it will sit for 40 hours or so. I first issue I had with my watch was that after I had it sitting for close to its total reserve of 46 hours I picked up the watch and started to wear it around 11am. I went out and after spending a few hours out at a friends business he told me he would have to be leaving at 130pm. I glanced at my watch and without thinking I thought it was just before 11am. Another 45 mins went by and he made a reference to leaving again and i did a time check and realized my watch had stopped running. A quick hard flick of my wrist start it up in motion again. I then realized it had stopped at 11pm the night before because the date had not changed over. Heres the issue I wore it for 3 hours or so in its discharged state and it did not wind on its own from my own movements. Now since then it has kept time while in a watch winder but I had it out for nearly 2 days and even tho it was running when i put it on it stopped running within that hour and i wore it for several hours before noticing it stopped. Again a quick hard flick of the wrist started it up. 2nd issue is I like to have the chrono going to see the large hand to act as a second hand. After the second time it stopped I figured maybe the reserve was running out faster since I had the chrono going all the time (last 6 weeks). I stopped the chrono and when I hit the reset (zero) button it did not go back to zero. I can start and stop it and reset 20 times and it will not go back to zero. The second hand nor the 30 min dial will not reset back to zero. What gives? Did I get a bad watch? I had an issue with one before that with the date wheel went bad (probably my fault). I sold it and bought a new one just so I wouldn't have to send it away and be without it for 3 months. Now looks like I am back to having to send it out. Any thoughts as to whats going on with the watch?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 03:51 am |
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four20 laissez les bons temps rouler! 
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lawman0210 wrote:I looked to get the perfect deal on a marathon CSAR for over 9 months. I owned a Tsar and loved it. I love automactic watches but they are very expensive and not nearly as dependable. I bought a new Csar and some times it will sit for 40 hours or so. I first issue I had with my watch was that after I had it sitting for close to its total reserve of 46 hours I picked up the watch and started to wear it around 11am. I went out and after spending a few hours out at a friends business he told me he would have to be leaving at 130pm. I glanced at my watch and without thinking I thought it was just before 11am. Another 45 mins went by and he made a reference to leaving again and i did a time check and realized my watch had stopped running. A quick hard flick of my wrist start it up in motion again. I then realized it had stopped at 11pm the night before because the date had not changed over. Heres the issue I wore it for 3 hours or so in its discharged state and it did not wind on its own from my own movements. Now since then it has kept time while in a watch winder but I had it out for nearly 2 days and even tho it was running when i put it on it stopped running within that hour and i wore it for several hours before noticing it stopped. Again a quick hard flick of the wrist started it up. 2nd issue is I like to have the chrono going to see the large hand to act as a second hand. After the second time it stopped I figured maybe the reserve was running out faster since I had the chrono going all the time (last 6 weeks). I stopped the chrono and when I hit the reset (zero) button it did not go back to zero. I can start and stop it and reset 20 times and it will not go back to zero. The second hand nor the 30 min dial will not reset back to zero. thoughts? well, welcome to the forum i guess  
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 04:09 am |
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Caddymon reliefcp/C.J.Moderator 
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Sorry but you have a bad movement. Welcome to Freeks!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 04:16 am |
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Tattoo Chef Moderator 
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lawman0210 wrote: I looked to get the perfect deal on a marathon CSAR for over 9 months. I owned a Tsar and loved it. I love automactic watches but they are very expensive and not nearly as dependable. I bought a new Csar and some times it will sit for 40 hours or so. I first issue I had with my watch was that after I had it sitting for close to its total reserve of 46 hours I picked up the watch and started to wear it around 11am. I went out and after spending a few hours out at a friends business he told me he would have to be leaving at 130pm. I glanced at my watch and without thinking I thought it was just before 11am. Another 45 mins went by and he made a reference to leaving again and i did a time check and realized my watch had stopped running. A quick hard flick of my wrist start it up in motion again. I then realized it had stopped at 11pm the night before because the date had not changed over. Heres the issue I wore it for 3 hours or so in its discharged state and it did not wind on its own from my own movements. Now since then it has kept time while in a watch winder but I had it out for nearly 2 days and even tho it was running when i put it on it stopped running within that hour and i wore it for several hours before noticing it stopped. Again a quick hard flick of the wrist started it up. 2nd issue is I like to have the chrono going to see the large hand to act as a second hand. After the second time it stopped I figured maybe the reserve was running out faster since I had the chrono going all the time (last 6 weeks). I stopped the chrono and when I hit the reset (zero) button it did not go back to zero. I can start and stop it and reset 20 times and it will not go back to zero. The second hand nor the 30 min dial will not reset back to zero. Looks like you got a bad movement... Sorry to hear that, hope you can get it rectified. When you sign in again, make an intro post to say hello to others, and let them know who you are a little. Welcome to the forum.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 04:16 am |
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lawman0210 Watch Freek
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do you think it would be covered by the warranty? Its a Jan 2011 manufacture date. How does the movement go bad?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 04:18 am |
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Tattoo Chef Moderator
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lawman0210 wrote: do you think it would be covered by the warranty? Its a Jan 2011 manufacture date. How does the movement go bad? It probably get mixed up with the wrong crowd......  Okay, only joking. Movements can go bad. Usually faulty from the start, or user error. Just like anything else, things can break, and most likely be fixed or replaced. I would either take it to a jeweler or send it to the company for a repair.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 04:36 am |
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oceanaut Watch Freek 
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Welcome do you have a trusted jeweler watch repair person take it to them see if it something simple but don't let them open. If not simple send it it in sorry to hear that on your first post
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 04:44 am |
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lawman0210 Watch Freek
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thank you for your replies. I will call them this week. Any idea on the difficulty level i will have trying to find a local jeweler who can work on this movement? Even if found what would be the odds of it being able to be fixed at the jeweler ie parts, adjustments? Didn't know where to post a hello to so here it is. My name is Ken and I am an alcoholic (just kidding). That is my real name. I am a retired police officer from Baltimore, and a former Marine. I am 43 years old soon to be 44 on the 16 July. I love military/tactical watch. I thought I found the perfect watch in the Marathon. I prefer a large face with tritium vials or a light. My next watch will be a Rolex 11633 Datejust 2 41mm, slat color dial with the green/black roman numerals.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 08:41 am |
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sixtysix Always Railroad Approved! 
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Most jewlers will not be able to work on the watch and will have to send it out to a watchmaker at added cost. Call the manf. first and see if it is covered. Then check for local watchmakers.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 10:55 am |
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tinknocker Watch Freek 
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If you bought it new, theres a one year warranty( at least on my TSAR). Did you get it from countycomm? If so heres a link to read http://www.countycomm.com/FAQ.htm Also, it says that the CSAR has a 42 hr minimum reserve when fully wound. http://www.countycomm.com/CSAR.htm Good luck, it's a great looking watch
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| Posted: Tue Jul 5th, 2011 10:57 am |
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TVDinner Administrator 
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Ken, welcome to Watch Freeks. Maybe I missed this in the thread, but, have you called Marathon yet? That should be your first call and before anything else. If you purchased this from them you need to take advantage of a warranty IF there is one.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 12:04 am |
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lawman0210 Watch Freek
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It seems I have bad luck with the Csar. My first one I think I damaged right of the box with adjusting the date and time. I realized the date wheel (day of week) was not working properly. It would rotate as it should at night but would not be centered in the date window, nor would the quick set function work to set the date. When I talked to the seller he stated it worked 100% when he sent it. I did not pay any attention if the time was between 2100-0100 when I adjusted the date so I may have damaged it myself. The second one I got I believe the chronograph was working correctly and as stated I was letting it run continuous for about 5 weeks when the power reserve seemed to run down to quickly. I decided to just reset the watch chrono and leave it stopped. Thats when I realized it would not reset. The 30 minute dial goes to approximately 1 hour position. The hourly dial goes to zero and the second sweep hand just move where ever it wants each time you press the reset button. I called Dave at Marathon on the first watch. He told me it takes about 3 months and the cost would be about 100-150.00, 8.95 return shipping plus and parts that need to be replaced. He said to send it to him, it will sit there until he has an order ready to send to Switzerland, it will get shipped and fixed, returned back to him and then shipped back to me. I couldnt bear to wait 3 months. I may just give up on Marathon and get another watch. It seems awfully frail for being such a beast of a watch
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| Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 12:13 am |
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Tattoo Chef Moderator
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Did I just read correctly that you let the chrono run for 5 weeks straight?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 12:24 am |
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lawman0210 Watch Freek
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yes you did. I had posed this question to another forum and although it can cause wear as with any moving parts it was said that it should hold up fine. Matter of fact a person I spoke to at Marathon said he prefers to have it run as well to see the large second run synced with the small dial second hand. I don't see why it would cause an issue. It has a 24 hour dial so that means its capable of handling measurements of time in large blocks so if you were to keep time with your chrono for say 2 days at a time thats roughly 17 uses and the watch needs to be repaired? Its not like the watch is overheated running the chrono continously.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 12:29 am |
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Tattoo Chef Moderator
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lawman0210 wrote: yes you did. I had posed this question to another forum and although it can cause wear as with any moving parts it was said that it should hold up fine. Matter of fact a person I spoke to at Marathon said he prefers to have it run as well to see the large second run synced with the small dial second hand. I don't see why it would cause an issue. It has a 24 hour dial so that means its capable of handling measurements of time in large blocks so if you were to keep time with your chrono for say 2 days at a time thats roughly 17 uses and the watch needs to be repaired? Its not like the watch is overheated running the chrono continously. I understand that......but I am guessing maybe having the chrono run like that, not exactly caused the movement to break, but maybe it lead to you finding out there was a problem. Sucks that you have issues with it, shouldnt be that many issues , hopefully you can get it resolved, or get a new watch. Keep us updated as to what you do, or to how Marathon resolves it.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 02:03 am |
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Zenrag D'affliction is the addiction! 
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3 months to get a watch serviced seams crazy, especially when they are charging you. Makes me worried as I have recently picked up 3 Marathon watches. I wish you good luck to get the CSAR back quickly.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 04:42 am |
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lawman0210 Watch Freek
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I agree. As explained to me is that it would take a week to get to them in Canada they will then hold the watch until they have a larg enough shippment which could take several weeks then they will ship it to the manufacturer in Switzerland which will take another week or so. It will wait in line to be repaired a few weeks, then back to canada and then back to me. Sometimes you just wish you had a timex!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 8th, 2011 05:16 am |
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vbobdriveguy Watch Freek 
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I don't believe you mentioned how long ago you bought the watch. Is getting a replacement from Marathon an option? Last edited on Fri Jul 8th, 2011 05:16 am by vbobdriveguy |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 03:57 am |
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lawman0210 Watch Freek
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When I called Dave at marathon he said its 75.00 just to inspect it plus repairs and shipping. I think since I bought it off ebay (even though new) i have no warranty. I checked the box and booklet but there was no warranty card or anything like that. The Chrono runs fine but now the second hand won't even move when reset. I can start it and stop to sync with my watch second hand. the other sub dials run but only one dial resets to 0
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 09:27 pm |
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richc1958 Watch Freek 
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Sounds like to me that Marathon warranties follow the owner and not the watch. This is something I check before buying a watch. This is why I did not buy buy the Bali Hai Gmt I wanted so bad as the warranty would not have transferred if I sold unlike the Helson's and Zixens I just sold the warranties went with the watch. Ps I would not buy a nice watch from ebay again just too risky imho.
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