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Hope it's ok to post this. I'm all in on the MOP & the Alpha Marine!!!

These are some new Deep Blue watches listed on the shopnbc site but without images or info yet

Deep Blue Men's 500 Auto SS with Divers Kit - J400318
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?track=-20301;&familyid=J400318&cm_re=Search-_-family-_-N

Deep Blue Marine Diver 500 Swiss Auto Black PVD Bracelet with Divers Kit - j400319
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?track=-20301;&familyid=J400319&cm_re=Search-_-family-_-N

DEEP BLUE MEN'S DIVE MASTER 500 SWISS AUTOMATIC STAINLESS BRACELET WATCH W/ DIVER KIT - J400320
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?trac...h-_-family-_-N

DEEP BLUE MEN'S BLUE WATCH EDITION 500 SWISS AUTOMATIC MOTHER OF PEARL DIAL STAINLESS BRACELET WATCH W/ DIVER KIT - J400321
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?trac...h-_-family-_-N

DEEP BLUE MEN'S ALPHA MARINE 500 SWISS AUTOMATIC LUME DIAL STAINLESS BRACELET WATCH W/ DIVER KIT - J400323
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?trac...h-_-family-_-N

DEEP BLUE MEN'S DIVE MASTER 500 SWISS AUTOMATIC BLACK PVD BRACELET WATCH W/ DIVER KIT - J400324
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?trac...h-_-family-_-N
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I have two more to add for the upcoming show:
DEEP BLUE SUNRAY DIVER 1000 AUTOMATIC DAY & DATE STAINLESS BRACE - J1000072
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?trac...h-_-family-_-N

DEEP BLUE SUNRAY DIVER 1000 AUTOMATIC DAY & DATE STAINLESS BRACE - J1000073
http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?trac...h-_-family-_-N
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Here's a couple of pics of the Bluewater. Not my pics and not the best but they must be ready to go soon.







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Here's a couple of pics of the Bluewater. Not my pics and not the best but they must be ready to go soon.



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What I've appreciated about Deep Blue (besides Sran being the man and great to deal with) over the past year is all the watches released in that period have had all the dive watch essentials covered...so I'm sorry to see no Lume pip on this model but hopefully it's just a oneoff and they'll get back to making those fully capable divers.
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Any idea on the show date?
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They have pictures up!It looks like all the new models will all have the Sellita SW200 instead of ETA movements.














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And unless they have some kind of foam between the case back and bracelet this isn't a good way to store your watch.It's a good way to get a scratched up case back.




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Nice looking pictures!!!
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They've gone to Sellita movements now??? Very interesting!! Eerily familiar to the same direction another watch company went when they continued to grow on ShopNBC. Hopefully this doesn't happen with Deep Blue. Just my 2 cents.
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They've gone to Sellita movements now??? Very interesting!! Eerily familiar to the same direction another watch company went when they continued to grow on ShopNBC. Hopefully this doesn't happen with Deep Blue. Just my 2 cents.

Is it getting harder and harder to get eta movts? I honestly do not know....Maybe it is and that is why they switched to Sellita.......guess we will find out...



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wont all companies be going the same direction in the near future. this does not seem that strange to me. not sure why the comparison to one brand has to be made at all and over and over when the same situation of less and less eta movements is effecting all brands across the board.
these new ones posted look interesting, especially the white and orange one. the watch box is gimmicky to me, but many companies do the same type of thing
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I just hope Stan doesnt give in and start mass producing his watches. How many dive versions can be made? I own2 DBs now. I guess am not really a diver guy anyway.
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I just hope Stan doesnt give in and start mass producing his watches. How many dive versions can be made? I own2 DBs now. I guess am not really a diver guy anyway.
So ultimately we don't want Stan and his company to be successful??
I am a little lost on this and just don't understand this thinking. People like the watches, but don't want the company to sell as many as possible? That does not make sense?

Do people tell Seiko to make less watches? Or Citizen? Or Hamilton? Or many others??? These brands have as many models and produce many many many more watches then Deep Blue and many others combined. Should they stop mass producing watches? Of course not.

I highly doubt Stan, or most other watch companies got into business to NOT sell as many watches as possible.

How is it a negative thing if the Deep Blue brand really gets popular and starts producing and selling A LOT of watches?? It is not negative at all.

What is negative would be if the quality of the product dropped, or customer service got bad. But if those things don't change there is nothing wrong with selling as many watches as possible. JMHO.
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I just hope Stan doesnt give in and start mass producing his watches. How many dive versions can be made? I own2 DBs now. I guess am not really a diver guy anyway.
So ultimately we don't want Stan and his company to be successful??
I am a little lost on this and just don't understand this thinking. People like the watches, but don't want the company to sell as many as possible? That does not make sense?

Do people tell Seiko to make less watches? Or Citizen? Or Hamilton? Or many others???* These brands have as many models and produce many many many more watches then Deep Blue and many others combined. Should they stop mass producing watches? Of course not.

I highly doubt Stan, or most other watch companies got into business to NOT sell as many watches as possible.

How is it a negative thing if the Deep Blue brand really gets popular and starts producing and selling A LOT of watches?? It is not negative at all.

What is negative would be if the quality of the product dropped, or customer service got bad. But if those things don't change there is nothing wrong with selling as many watches as possible. JMHO.
i don't think CJ wants Stan to fail, James. i think he means that there is a certain feeling of exclusivity to owning a limited production run Deep Blue. there is a "draw" or "pull" in that feeling. owning a Seiko (as much as i love the brand) doesn't carry that same cachet in the WIS community as the micro brands like DB, Halios, Benerus, etc.
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I just hope Stan doesnt give in and start mass producing his watches. How many dive versions can be made? I own2 DBs now. I guess am not really a diver guy anyway.
So ultimately we don't want Stan and his company to be successful??
I am a little lost on this and just don't understand this thinking. People like the watches, but don't want the company to sell as many as possible? That does not make sense?

Do people tell Seiko to make less watches? Or Citizen? Or Hamilton? Or many others??? These brands have as many models and produce many many many more watches then Deep Blue and many others combined. Should they stop mass producing watches? Of course not.

I highly doubt Stan, or most other watch companies got into business to NOT sell as many watches as possible.

How is it a negative thing if the Deep Blue brand really gets popular and starts producing and selling A LOT of watches?? It is not negative at all.

What is negative would be if the quality of the product dropped, or customer service got bad. But if those things don't change there is nothing wrong with selling as many watches as possible. JMHO.
i don't think CJ wants Stan to fail, James. i think he means that there is a certain feeling of exclusivity to owning a limited production run Deep Blue. there is a "draw" or "pull" in that feeling. owning a Seiko (as much as i love the brand) doesn't carry that same cachet in the WIS community as the micro brands like DB, Halios, Benerus, etc.
I would agree with Erik on his take here. No harm, no foul. With that said, I think that on the contrary to what CJ said, dive watches are increasing in popularity and that is in part due to the emergence of so many micro brands, IMO. Can a dive watch be "different" everytime?? I believe the answer is yes if the manufacturer wants to use all of the resources at his disposal along with some creativity. Case in point of not doing so (and I say this not in a harmful or critical way, but rather as an observation) is Deep Blue's repititous use of very similar bracelets on so many of their different models. That in itself can make a watch a bit too redundant. JMHO. A new design watch should include a new design bracelet as well to really maintain interest, otherwise they all start to look the same. Again, JMHO.

LOL !!! Still gonna buy some of Stan's new releases. Why??? Cause their "Bad Azz" !!! :b:c
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Sorry if thats how you understood my post.Thats not what I meant at all. I just dont want to see a mass production at the cost of QC and creativity. I want Stan to succeed as much as any brand that I own but when you churn out models too fast sometimes the quality suffers. The first models are special and all were true LEs and LPs.When Shop NBC has a vendors contract demands have to be met sometimes the at the expense of the company producing them.If they churn out TTVs just to meet those demands.I would rather pay a little more and keep them limited in their production. The thing thats cool about DB is they arent available all the time like some brands are.
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I just hope Stan doesnt give in and start mass producing his watches. How many dive versions can be made? I own2 DBs now. I guess am not really a diver guy anyway.
So ultimately we don't want Stan and his company to be successful??
I am a little lost on this and just don't understand this thinking. People like the watches, but don't want the company to sell as many as possible? That does not make sense?

Do people tell Seiko to make less watches? Or Citizen? Or Hamilton? Or many others??? These brands have as many models and produce many many many more watches then Deep Blue and many others combined. Should they stop mass producing watches? Of course not.

I highly doubt Stan, or most other watch companies got into business to NOT sell as many watches as possible.

How is it a negative thing if the Deep Blue brand really gets popular and starts producing and selling A LOT of watches?? It is not negative at all.

What is negative would be if the quality of the product dropped, or customer service got bad. But if those things don't change there is nothing wrong with selling as many watches as possible. JMHO.
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I never thought you personally meant you wanted them to fail, lol - I just meant in general it seems many people look down on a company that GROWS and gets larger. None ("most") of these companies will admit to wanting to be "forum" or "boutique" brands forever. They all ("most") want to sell a ton of watches and grow into larger and better know watch companies.

I AGREE 100% that the problem is if they grow to fast and lose quality control or provide negative customer service. That is very bad and hurts a companies reputation and products overall.

And let's not forget that Stan DOES NOT have to work with shopnbc and be one of their vendors. He chooses to sell on that channel. So all our HOPE is that he can provide the volume of watches they might require WITHOUT sacrificing the quality of the product and the CS they currently offer.

But I can honestly say I could care less if Stan produces 1-2 million watches a year, if they stay at the level and price point they are at now without changing the quality we are used to. I will not look down on the company for growing (again not saying you were saying that) and selling more and making money. If anything if they produce more due to higher demand we might see lower pricing based on their ability to source the parts at better pricing due to the higher volume purchased.

They can still offer some specific models in LE production like many brands do.

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Sorry if thats how you understood my post.Thats not what I meant at all. I just dont want to see a mass production at the cost of QC and creativity. I want Stan to succeed as much as any brand that I own but when you churn out models too fast sometimes the quality suffers. The first models are special and all were true LEs and LPs.When Shop NBC has a vendors contract demands have to be met sometimes the at the expense of the company producing them.If they churn out TTVs just to meet those demands.I would rather pay a little more and keep them limited in their production. The thing thats cool about DB is they arent available all the time like some brands are.
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I just hope Stan doesnt give in and start mass producing his watches. How many dive versions can be made? I own2 DBs now. I guess am not really a diver guy anyway.
So ultimately we don't want Stan and his company to be successful??
I am a little lost on this and just don't understand this thinking. People like the watches, but don't want the company to sell as many as possible? That does not make sense?

Do people tell Seiko to make less watches? Or Citizen? Or Hamilton? Or many others??? These brands have as many models and produce many many many more watches then Deep Blue and many others combined. Should they stop mass producing watches? Of course not.

I highly doubt Stan, or most other watch companies got into business to NOT sell as many watches as possible.

How is it a negative thing if the Deep Blue brand really gets popular and starts producing and selling A LOT of watches?? It is not negative at all.

What is negative would be if the quality of the product dropped, or customer service got bad. But if those things don't change there is nothing wrong with selling as many watches as possible. JMHO.
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Like them or not I actually think that hurt Renato. People bought their TTV interchangable TRex and they had a very hard time getting a higher price again for a TRex.They had to discount new models down the road just to sell them. Case in point about DBs. How many people want the T25 watches anymore unless they are sold at a lower cost than their T100s.Overall I am of the opinion selling watches on TV is only good for the short term and not a long term good business plan. Chase Durer had a hard time once their watches were discounted on TV. I am all for DB having a sucessful company its just a very fine line that only a few companies have prospered long term.
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How many people want the T25 watches anymore unless they are sold at a lower cost than their T100s.
the T-25 Daynight-OPS sold out months ago. there was no inventory overlap.
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