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Old 11-24-2014, 07:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Been looking to pick up the 2.1 Cinemate 2 (399.00) or the Cinemate 15 (599.00) from Bose. Had the Sony Dream ssytem but did not want the wire clutter.
The reviews from users are very good on sites like Amazon and best Buy but on the audio video forums they seem to hate Bose.
Anyone have any imput? I have a small tv room and do not need a huge system.
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We've had a small Bose system in the dining room for 14 years and it works a treat, expanded it to do the outdoors a year or so later and the utdoor speakers still sound sweet

No complaints from me. For a small room and the price, I think they are good value
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Never owned one but 2 years ago I was in the same spot "Bose or Klipsh "and based on YouTube videos I decided to go w/ Klipsh....good luck!!!
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE my noise cancelling Bose headphones for when I travel each week. The music sound is incredible and they literally block out all sounds. Sometimes I don't even know we have landed lol.

I have been a Bose fan for a while. No issues with me.
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Been looking to pick up the 2.1 Cinemate 2 (399.00) or the Cinemate 15 (599.00) from Bose. Had the Sony Dream ssytem but did not want the wire clutter.
The reviews from users are very good on sites like Amazon and best Buy but on the audio video forums they seem to hate Bose.
Anyone have any imput? I have a small tv room and do not need a huge system.
Probably snobbery causes a lot of it. Like on some watch forums where if you don't own 10 rolex, an IWC and a omega as a minimum, then you can't be a collector of watches, particularly if you buy a homage of any kind.
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Probably snobbery causes a lot of it. Like on some watch forums where if you don't own 10 rolex, an IWC and a omega as a minimum, then you can't be a collector of watches, particularly if you buy a homage of any kind.
I got the same vibe from those video forums. Like I said I was looking for a 2.1 system or a soundbar like system. The only other 2.1 system I saw was the Onkyo which is discontinued.
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I got the same vibe from those video forums. Like I said I was looking for a 2.1 system or a soundbar like system. The only other 2.1 system I saw was the Onkyo which is discontinued.

2.1 how could you I'm sure they were all on at least 8.1, you should be ashamed.

I have an Onkyo A/V amp and find it excellent value for money.
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE my noise cancelling Bose headphones for when I travel each week. The music sound is incredible and they literally block out all sounds. Sometimes I don't even know we have landed lol.

I have been a Bose fan for a while. No issues with me.

Ditto on the love here for mine. Super comfy, too.
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I've had a Bose Acoustic Wave for, geez, I don't even remember when I got it, probably close to 10 years now. It survived a cross country move and still sounds great.
They are expensive, but at that time I had the dough.
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I've had Bose speakers for over 20 years. Great sound, affordable, and no problems.
There are better speakers out there, but my ears are not sophisticated enough to measure the minute differences.
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I've had Bose speakers for over 20 years. Great sound, affordable, and no problems.
There are better speakers out there, but my ears are not sophisticated enough to measure the minute differences.
I am in the same boat as my hearing is not that sophisticated as well. Certain tones, like my wife's voice, I hardly ever hear.
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You want to talk about snobby folks go to some of the high end tube audio sites. You want to hear some people bloviate go get yourself in some of those discussions. At the end of the day, just like watches, buy what makes you happy. it's your money after all.

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Forgot to add your gonna need to get your whole house re-wired so you have "clean" power going to all of the components anyways
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I am in the same boat as my hearing is not that sophisticated as well. Certain tones, like my wife's voice, I hardly ever hear.
Wow! We share the same ailment.
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Ditto with the Noise concelling headphones - forgot about those...

As to full systems...

If you are able to, go to a store where you can listen to them in comparison to larger, traditional styles.

I think they are way better than the mass market all in one ideas, but not as good as separate components

But they are great value for money IMHO

Let your ears decide

Oh, the RF remote is also handy - walls, head, people, chairs - not a problem it all just works
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You want to talk about snobby folks go to some of the high end tube audio sites. You want to hear some people bloviate go get yourself in some of those discussions. At the end of the day, just like watches, buy what makes you happy. it's your money after all.

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Forgot to add your gonna need to get your whole house re-wired so you have "clean" power going to all of the components anyways
Yeah that dirty electricity is a real downer
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My observations:

The highs are too brassy and bright making the noise more fatiguing to the ears over extended listening periods.

I like the simplicity and "clean" set up of the Bose speaker cubes, but you can't beat speakers that have better quality enclosures and components.

I've had Definitive Technology for my movie surround set up, but left them behind when we sold our house in 2007. They were excellent for movies, but lacked in detail and clarity I am used to with regards to Classical and Jazz music.

Now I have Boston Acoustics VRM60s(3 for L, C, R channels), VRM50s(6 for surrounds), and PV1000 subs(2 for R and L subs), for my "theater" set up. I listen to Classical and Jazz music which is the main reason I purchased these speakers. Incredible staging, clarity, sound quality.

Very warm and natural sounds, especially with acoustic instruments especially if mated with the right receiver. Speakers are connected to my Denon AVR 5805, which is a behemoth if a receiver, lol.

In the end, you are the one who will be listening to music, movies, etc., so your ears should be happy irregardless of what brand speakers they are.
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Bose is one my favorite sound systems ever. Owned two.
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Old 11-25-2014, 01:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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As a real deal audio engineer, for live and recording, I have been exposed to some of the best speakers ever made. There are industry standards and then there are preferred brands, and then there are people that will swear by only one brand. I have also seen million dollar systems installed incorrectly and sound like a trash can.
As for the Bose systems, I believe the older products a better than the new ones. The technology has changed not only in the consumer world, but in the way music is recorded. I have three different music systems. Each is for a different format, reel to reel/records, surround/digital/records, tape/digital/radio. Many of the materials being used are more synthetic. I like the "vintage" sound so I look for fiber cones versus the plastic/coated cones.
I do get many people asking who makes the best. My response to them, is to find an authorized or very respectable dealer, have some of your favorite tunes/movies, and spend time listening. Take into account of how the system is set up. Look around the space to see if there is any accoustical treatment. Go with what you like, 'cause its your money and you should get what you like!
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"No Highs....No Lows"
"Must Be Bose"


Personally I've had a few models and alway's liked their sound.
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Stan stole my quote .

I have dabbled in mid to high end audio and while I find the Bose systems are good at some things, they tend to fall short in others. Try listening to a piano on a Bose system and you will likely feel it lacks the ability to accurately reproduce such sounds.

That being said I have been a member of one of the better audio forums on the web for a while:

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/

It is to audio what Watchfreeks is to timepieces. These folks put out data driven reviews, tend to stay away from the "I can hear it" type of evaluations, and have an entire subforum set up to help people build systems and offer and receive advice. Most of the discussion centers on budget type systems and bang for the buck. You may find it interesting to do some searching on Bose systems within this forum .
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