Panerai movement scandal...

andrema · Nov 9, 2011

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There is a big controversy currently going on in the Paneristi world regarding the movements that were used in the PAM 318 Special Edition "Brooklyn Bridge" watches. Instead of having a decorated movements, like the OPII from the PAM 414 installed, subpar movements have been utilized in the PAM 318. As you look at the pictures below and read the links, please keep in mind that the 318 is a $5,000 watch! These are two threads that go through the entire story, with all of the sorted details...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ous+PAM318

http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/t ... ners+Unite

Let's start with a couple of pics of this BEAUTIFUL watch!

Here you have some pics from the PAM 414 movement (OP II) and the PAM 318 movement (OP XXIX) The movement from the PAM 414 is presented first, with the corresponding picture of the PAM 318 movement right after...quite a difference and I can see why folks are up in arms about this!

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IMO that is a complete disgrace and OP should offer all owners of the PAM 318 either - A full refund, A replacement movment and/or free inspection to satisfy any current owners angziety over this issue!

jade4x4 · Nov 9, 2011

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Yep.....I read about that on one of the "other" forums...all I can say it WOW!!!

Caddymon · Nov 9, 2011

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Read about it too. A disgrace and embarrassment to the brand.They should have the real movement installed free of charge or a full refund.

andrema · Nov 9, 2011

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This is some of the literature on what was supposed to be included in the "Brooklyn Bridge" PAM318...

TVDinner · Nov 9, 2011

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I guess the real question is how this happened. Clearly they were selling one thing and they sent out something else. So somewhere along the production line a big mistake was made.

Or it was done on purpose, but without proof I can not say that. So why was this mistake made- how made this mistake - and where was the mistake made is the current and real questions I guess.

Hoopy Frood 66 · Nov 9, 2011

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I would think they would want to make this right. A brand like Panerai could really be hurt by this, I would imagine.

rbmbb · Nov 9, 2011

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Holy Cow....somebody call Donut quick and make sure he isn't jumping off a bridge or something..

Take it easy fella....this will all work out. :b J/K.

four20 · Nov 9, 2011

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the following comment on another site had me rolling-

Sometimes I feel Panerai owners and company are the Kardashians of the watch world. Big Beautiful and full of drama.

:lol

i have posted about this on a couple different sites and no one seems to have an answer-

1- what am i missing in calling these watches "tool watches"?

2- has this been verified with another 318 owner?

andrema · Nov 9, 2011

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four20 wrote:

the following comment on another site had me rolling-

Sometimes I feel Panerai owners and company are the Kardashians of the watch world. Big Beautiful and full of drama.

Click to expand...

:lol

i have posted about this on a couple different sites and no one seems to have an answer-

1- what am i missing in calling these watches "tool watches"?

2- has this been verified with another 318 owner?

On #2, I believe that someone on DWC opened theirs and found the same (Luke, I think).

BigTime738 · Nov 9, 2011

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Without an exhibition case back does it really matter what the movement looks like? NO. What matters is that you think you're getting one thing and you end up getting something different... Much less in this case... :whatever:

WATCHURSELF · Nov 9, 2011

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rbmbb wrote:

Holy Cow....somebody call Donut quick and make sure he isn't jumping off a bridge or something..

Take it easy fella....this will all work out. :b J/K.

:lol:lol:lol

four20 · Nov 9, 2011

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andrema wrote:

four20 wrote:

the following comment on another site had me rolling-

Sometimes I feel Panerai owners and company are the Kardashians of the watch world. Big Beautiful and full of drama.

Click to expand...

:lol

i have posted about this on a couple different sites and no one seems to have an answer-

1- what am i missing in calling these watches "tool watches"?

2- has this been verified with another 318 owner?

Click to expand...

On #2, I believe that someone on DWC opened theirs and found the same (Luke, I think).

thanks Mark

now, if i could just wrap my head around the "tool watch" thing.....

zaskar36 · Nov 9, 2011

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OMG...that is a major mistake. They have sullied their brand. And in a space where brand is EVERYTHING...just horrible.

Domtime · Nov 9, 2011

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Bait and really switch....That's totally bullsh!t. To make this mistake,and not know about it is a flat out lie(if they come out and say it was an accident?)A company like Panerai.C'mon.Now Invicta....Now yout talkin'.How perfect is that name for this watch though,for this occurance,"Brooklyn Bridge". Ya can't make this sh!t up...lol

toecutter · Nov 9, 2011

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toecutter · Nov 10, 2011

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That sucks.

Should have just stuck a SeaGull 6497 in it.

Better decorated and keeps just as good of time.

Probably bein the Florida Swampland Limited Edition version.

Almost seems like a bogus post or maybe a joke. It'll be interesting to see if there are more people finding this out.

WWIIBuff · Nov 10, 2011

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you know there is an old saying around NYC about that goes like this, "if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn". Well it looks like Pam, just sold that bridge.

whattime · Nov 10, 2011

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I'M PISSED

MeKeNi · Nov 10, 2011

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Is this one of those "3rd party" things? I don't even know what I'm talking about.. But Dannng.. Thass messed up!

crotchhasteeth · Nov 10, 2011

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For a few hundred dollars, that movement would be fine in a non exhibition case. But its a PAM. They are NICE. For 5 thousand dollars, those rough edges , and scratches, and finish errors are TERRIBLE. Im sorry , but Invicta has better movements with no exhibition case. A Miyota looks better than that.

whattime · Nov 10, 2011

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Has the factory issued any comments as yet

WWIIBuff · Nov 10, 2011

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I think Pamvicta is going to have you call CS and ask for Rebecca. LOL

andrema · Nov 10, 2011

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UPDATE - AngeloBonati, OP President, offered owners of the PAM 318 to replace the movements at his own, personal expense (minus shipping and handling). In addition, he added that the movements that were used are not inferior to what was supposed to be used...give me a break!!

Minus shipping and handling...are you kidding me? That is a slap in the face!

I have lost complete trust in Panerai and question whether I will ever buy one of their watches.

This is his actual response at PPF:http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/message/1320922854/Official+update+on+the+318+from+the+desk+of+Sig.+Bonati......

"Anyone who choses to can have their movement switched out on the 318. This will be done free of charge via the LA and NY boutiques only, but will exclude transportation costs and insurances. Please note the movement currently supplied is not inferior nor implied as such. The change order is purely for those who wish to take advantage of this option and offer.

Please note. The words employed here are mine and typed in haste as I travel home. I just wanted to pass this offer on. So please no replies based on content or choice of words.

Paddy"

rbmbb · Nov 10, 2011

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Looks like Panerai has a new marketing guy..

What's Panerai going to to replace the movements with? Dubois Depraz modules installed by Inflicta???

whattime · Nov 10, 2011

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It sounds like "we got caught lets try to fix it" Looking at the Panerai forums the guys are all raving about how good this is....Don't get me wrong I like Panerai but if something like this would happen at Invicta. Invicta's CEO and all of the board of directors would already have been hung and burned at the stake...Just my 2 cents

watchmaven · Nov 10, 2011

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Sounds like the good Signor got caught with his pantalunes on the ground...uh hmmmm. Maybe I'll stick with Mansubishjies watches or whatever his name is. This sucks for whomever shelled out five large for this watch.

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