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I have to say, these are some of the nicest looking bronze divers I've seen. Having said that, I'm still not sure I'm convinced by the whole bronze case trend that seems to be going on right now.
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Hey Roland, nice executions that you're bringin out. I asked on the original thread about your pieces if there would be a bracelet option down the road. Bronze bracelets just aren't an option on bronze pieces and this woulld be quite unique and set the watch apart from any other bronze pieces that I know of. Just sayin. Food for thought.
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I will definitely be getting one, as they are one of the nicest bronze divers I've seen.
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Hey Ky70!

No plans for a stainless cased version right now, but ill definitely keep it in mind for the future.

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Great looking watch Roland...I'm a fan of this case design. Any plans to do a stainless steel version with this case?
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Hey Ky70!

No plans for a stainless cased version right now, but ill definitely keep it in mind for the future.

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Great looking watch Roland...I'm a fan of this case design. Any plans to do a stainless steel version with this case?
It is a great looking case. I will just have to wait for mine on pre-order to see if the pictures live up to the experience. But an SS version would be cool if we find the watch fits great.
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Hey Arnie!

There are a lot of issues with a bronze bracelet that I believe stop a lot of people from even attempting it. It would be very, very heavy, costly and has the possibility of irritating your skin. I think that the best option for people that want a bracelet might be a pvd one? Ill definitely give it some thought though!

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Hey Roland, nice executions that you're bringin out. I asked on the original thread about your pieces if there would be a bracelet option down the road. Bronze bracelets just aren't an option on bronze pieces and this woulld be quite unique and set the watch apart from any other bronze pieces that I know of. Just sayin. Food for thought.
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Hey Roland, nice executions that you're bringin out.┬* I asked on the original thread about your pieces if there would be a bracelet option down the road.┬* Bronze bracelets just aren't an option on bronze pieces and this woulld be quite unique and set the watch apart from any other bronze pieces that I know of.┬* Just sayin.┬* Food for thought.┬*
Arnie, I was reading elsewhere about this. One of the reason of all the bronze divers out there, Panerai, Ennibi, Aquadive, Helson, Olivier, etc.....that there is not a bronze bracelet option is because it is not exactly hypoallergenic like stainless steel or titanium is.
That is why they all have titanium or steel casebacks and crowns, as those are the parts that will come in contact most with the skin. Bronze can cause skin irritation and rashes.
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Hey Roland, nice executions that you're bringin out. I asked on the original thread about your pieces if there would be a bracelet option down the road. Bronze bracelets just aren't an option on bronze pieces and this woulld be quite unique and set the watch apart from any other bronze pieces that I know of. Just sayin. Food for thought.
Arnie, I was reading elsewhere about this. One of the reason of all the bronze divers out there, Panerai, Ennibi, Aquadive, Helson, Olivier, etc.....that there is not a bronze bracelet option is because it is not exactly hypoallergenic like stainless steel or titanium is.
That is why they all have titanium or steel casebacks and crowns, as those are the parts that will come in contact most with the skin. Bronze can cause skin irritation and rashes.
So should that stop a watch manufacturer from making them ?? LOL bro. All they have to do is the usual "caution!! Bracelet may be hazordous to your health" claim. lol

Amazing what the fear of potential lawsuits does to people. JMHO. :BE :wf

Or .................. Just a sign that says .................... "Wear at your own risk" !! Good enough for me, JMHO. :b
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Hey Roland, nice executions that you're bringin out.┬* I asked on the original thread about your pieces if there would be a bracelet option down the road.┬* Bronze bracelets just aren't an option on bronze pieces and this woulld be quite unique and set the watch apart from any other bronze pieces that I know of.┬* Just sayin.┬* Food for thought.┬*
Arnie, I was reading elsewhere about this. One of the reason of all the bronze divers out there, Panerai, Ennibi, Aquadive, Helson, Olivier, etc.....that there is not a bronze bracelet option is because it is not exactly hypoallergenic like stainless steel or titanium is.
That is why they all have titanium or steel casebacks and crowns, as those are the parts that will come in contact most with the skin. Bronze can cause skin irritation and rashes.
So should that stop a watch┬* manufacturer from making them ??┬* LOL bro.┬* All they have to do is the usual "caution!! Bracelet may be hazordous to your health" claim.┬* lol

Amazing what the fear of potential lawsuits does to people.┬* JMHO.┬* :BE┬* :wf

Or .................. Just a sign that says .................... "Wear at your own risk" !!┬* Good enough for me, JMHO.┬* :b
hey Arnie, it is probably a demand thingy.... Ya know, wear at your own risk prob won't push that demand enough either, in order to cover the tooling to make production economical.
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Plus, someone will still find a lawyer to sue, doesn't matter how many warnings you use to cover your butt.
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Not to derail this thread, but I dont think it really has anything to do with lawsuits.

The bottom line is, the metal is a material that is not hypoallergenic, and will cause irration for most people

So why make something, that you know wont be a good seller.

In this business, if something was going to be worth it and profitable, we would have seen it by now......JMO.
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On top of which you'll probably be allergic Arnie!!

Then you can sell it to me for a loss....


Sorry for the threadjack Roland.
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Not to derail this thread, but I dont think it really has anything to do with lawsuits.

The bottom line is, the metal is a material that is not hypoallergenic, and will cause irration for most people

So why make something, that you know wont be a good seller.

In this business, if something was going to be worth it and profitable, we would have seen it by now......JMO.
Yup supply and demand.
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Awesome looking diver! I think the black rubber strap goes very well with the bronze... Would not even think about buying a bracelet for this one.:c:c:c
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I've been looking at this watch for many days now, I keep coming back to it. It is beautiful and one that I would love to have. But it just dawned on me that, even though I too, have a 6.5" wrist, it is to much watch for my needs.

If it were 42,43mm, instead of 45mm

If L2L was 45,46mm instead of 48mm (which isn't bad for me)

If it was rated at 200M WR instead of 500M, than you wouldn't need the Helium Escape Valve.

You can make it a little thinner ( it's not bad as it is now)

Keep everything else the same, than I would be able to live with it.

It'sjust what I would like to see.

It IS the best looking watch, to me, that I've seen. Just not perfect for my needs. But damn, I'm still drooling over it.


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Well...the time has come guys. I had been promising an update with some really great surprises, and its finally here! After launching last month the second most asked question besides "will there be other dial colors?" was "FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD WILL THERE BE STRAP OPTIONS!" For the former I opted for a blue, brown and no date dial options, and couldn't leave those wanting for straps out to dry! I had been waiting for a package to arrive full of strap samples for me to try out, and it finally arrived yesterday. So today I made an impromptu studio set up so that I wouldn't have to go to the office on a Saturday [its the little things] and snapped away. There are a LOT of pictures in this thread, prepare for the long haul. You can also see the 2.0 version of the bronze buckles in the pictures. Some of you that have ordered buckles in the past few weeks might have already gotten these, the 2.0 versions have a channel on the underside of the buckle to let the buckle hug the strap. They are also thicker.

The news that might excite the most of you is that the guys over at ISOFRANE are letting me get their straps for Olivier! Contact me for more details! Anyone that has an ISOFRANE knows what im talking about when I say that they are bar none THEE rubber strap. They are just super comfortable and the support it gives even the heaviest watches makes them feel great on the wrist. I will be able to offer them as an upgrade strap with my watches, and as you can see, I've already got the bronze isofrane sized tang completed. There will also be a isofrane specific buckle available that Ill debut when its all finished. Yes, black AND blue isofranes will be available! Contact me for more details !














I was also able to find a great THICK brown leather strap with very cool stitching. I think it looks fantastic on the bronze / bronze diver combo, and might be exactly what those of you who pre-ordered the brown dial are looking for. I am also waiting on the same strap in black with white stitching, as well as a dark brown waterproof leather strap. Details on those when they arrive.





I was also happy to find a great soft black leather band with white stich. I love how it dresses up the watch, and it feels fantastic on.













I also sourced some great sailclothe straps in black and blue. I love sailclothe, and think they really look perfect on these bronzes.





























Let me know what you think, this is just part 1 of the accessory straps for the Bronze Diver, I am still actively looking for more options and will post another update when I get other options in!
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Fantastic news Roland!! I have no doubt you will be selling out of these watches quickly. :b
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Hey Everyone! Im going to be posting this around on the various Olivier Threads out there, so if you start to experience deja vu, dont worry!

Yesterday there was a recall announced for Helson bronze cases and Benarus is currently planning to announce the same for some of their bronze morays. The bronze alloy they had received from the manufacturer was NOT the CuSn8 they had been told and they are doing great things to take care of their customers, hats off to them and their great CS. I just want to assure everyone here that we are NOT in the same situation, our cases are CuSn8, german made and looks exactly how you would expect CuSn8 to look, and age. I have now sourced CuSn8 from both Germany and from here locally in Redondo Beach where I have my buckles made, and they both look the same; they start as a bright gold tone that darkens and patinas into a very nice darker brown. This is exactly how the bronze PAM 382 also appears [some of these photos belong to great WIS PifPaf!], and well as Paiste cymbals, both known to be made from CuSn8 bronze, attached here are some pictures of new and old CuSn8.







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That's awesome to hear Ronald.

With those other suppliers attempting to get their commodity for their rework, will this affect your suppliers in Germany?

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Great question Zenrag!

No problems at all, my cases are already well into production, they have all the CuSn8 they need, as well as some for something else coming out from me in the future :l. Not to mention the quantities of bronze we are talking about here are also relatively small to say a full scale construction order.

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With those other suppliers attempting to get their commodity for their rework, will this affect your suppliers in Germany?

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