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Old 02-16-2017, 02:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Is OP saying the watches represent the exact same model?

I don't think comparing the top with the bottom solves anything.
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andrema -

Respectfully, how long are you going to keep us in suspense?

Or does the fact that you have yet to publish an expository post mean that no one has posted the correct answer?
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Oh, the bottom one definitely has issues. From the first time that I saw it I noticed the bezel problems. It is either some sort of cobbled together frankenfake or just a fake.
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The top one is the real deal
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The top one is the real deal
… but there's a gap between the end link and the lower lug on the right hand side??
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… but there's a gap between the end link and the lower lug on the right hand side??
You mean the one that says GENUINE COMPARISONS...
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And that brings me to a question that has been puzzling me for a long time. As the producer of counterfeit watches one of your goals might be to produce a fake that can pass second scrutiny. Making it a good seller. This must be a multi million dollar industry with a large profit margin.

So you go to a store and buy an original popular A-brand watch, like this Omega. You take it to your design department and have them dissect it. The result is translated into dies, silk screen patterns, etc. As you have the original, the visible parts of the watch can be replicated 1 to 1. And yet they fail. Why is this? Or does the level of detail to get it absolutely on the mark make the end product too expensive to peddle it on the streets and make enough profit?
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Goodwatch -
I have often wondered the same thing - why cant the counterfeiters get it right when they have every component to copy and all of the time in the world? My guess - greed.

I understand that in some instances it may be cost prohibitive to use exactly the same metals but if someone with the appropriate equipment and a sufficient amount of attention to detail should be able to get it right. But then we have to factor in the greed. It is greed that causes the counterfeiters to a) use cheap materials, b) not pay sufficient attention to detail, and c) rush the process so they can generate as many pieces as possible.

I once saw two counterfeits that were incredibly accurate (micro engravings, etc) such that the only way to determine authenticity by visual inspection was to remove the caseback and examine the movement. Those pieces were acquired in Japan by a relative who at the time was in the military and stationed in the Philippines. Thank t was more than 20 years ago and he told me he paid more than $200 apiece for each watch (about $350 in today's dollars). It would be interesting to know what the profit margin was on that watch.
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I have often wondered the same thing - why cant the counterfeiters get it right when they have every component to copy and all of the time in the world? My guess - greed.
Increasing the quality of counterfeits usually makes no business sense.

Omega for instance spend millions on specialized machinery to make their product. They also produce it in scale to lower the cost per unit. On top of this, there is limited demand world wide for their product.

Now you are a counterfeiter with semi optimum machinery. Are you going to spend all this money and time to retool to make exact copies? Probably not.

Why? because you won't be able to sell at a volume or price that makes it worth your while.

If you have the machines and skill to make exact copies of luxury watches, you'd end up making more money by manufacturing for real companies.
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Top looks real to me... bottom the date window does not allow for the hour indicator plus not centered.

What's the correct answer?
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