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I think I've decided. Longines

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#1 ·
And it's not the Ball. I looked but yes, the bracelets are scratch magnets. I don't like the Polish.

So Oris. Nada. Mido is a Zero.

So I think I found one. I really like it, although it is thick, but I don't mind that.

It is a Longines. Usually I don't go for that but, this one I really liked. It is the Longines L3.687.4.56.6. I think it is called the Longines Conquest Gmt.

In person it looks really great. The dial looks matte but apparently in sunlight it has that sunray effect. The back looks really solid like a diver.

The bracelet is brushed and feels great. It has a nice double lock clasp. It is nice.

So any feedback on this? Movement, Longines durability and overall quality.

The AD is charging me 48,100 baht, which is right around $1,400. She also has the dial in Silver but I think the black looks awesome.



Quite thick as you can see. It is not a light watch



I think, like the Explorer II (not comparing but) it gives you that half dressy half sporty thing I'm looking for.



After reading a bit the movement is an ETA/Valgranges A07.171
 
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#2 ·
Big watch. heavy watch, very very well made. I would own this model right now if it wasn't for the paltry 50m WR.
 
#3 ·
It's OK as long as it stands rain and washing hands. I have my Seiko Diver for vacations.

I thought the 41mm was OK even for my 6" wrist. It just feels heavy and it is thick, but I sort of like that.

As far as the case width it is a good size for all wrists. Because if it was 36 or 39 it would be too dressy, at 41 is just sporty enough. At least for my taste.
 
#9 ·
And it's not the Ball. I looked but yes, the bracelets are scratch magnets. I don't like the Polish.

So Oris. Nada. Mido is a Zero.

So I think I found one. I really like it, although it is thick, but I don't mind that.

It is a Longines. Usually I don't go for that but, this one I really liked. It is the Longines L3.687.4.56.6. I think it is called the Longines Conquest Gmt.

In person it looks really great. The dial looks matte but apparently in sunlight it has that sunray effect. The back looks really solid like a diver.

The bracelet is brushed and feels great. It has a nice double lock clasp. It is nice.
So any feedback on this? Movement, Longines durability and overall quality.
The AD is charging me 48,100 baht, which is right around $1,400. She also has the dial in Silver but I think the black looks awesome.
Quite thick as you can see. It is not a light watch
I think, like the Explorer II (not comparing but) it gives you that half dressy half sporty thing I'm looking for.
After reading a bit the movement is an ETA/Valgranges A07.171
Nice all around GMT, more dressy than sporty, movement is solid and I may be mistaking but, think your watch uses a fairly plain Longines L704.2 movement? which is an ETA 2893-2, lume is adecuated...
This one is no diver of course and is not intended to be one by any stretch of the imagination , one of the more commonly found complaints when introduced in 2012 (I think was 2012) was the rather poor W/R but, if that's cool with you? then is all good ...;)
Jomashop have them for around $1200 +- they tend to lose value rather quickly compare to their Hydroconquest cousins and can be found pre-loved (if mint) in the $850 to $950 range , personally I prefer going gray market or pre-loved on watches at that price range.
 
#10 ·
Nice all around GMT, more dressy than sporty, movement is solid and I may be mistaking but, think your watch uses a fairly plain Longines L704.2 movement? which is an ETA 2893-2, lume is adecuated...
This one is no diver of course and is not intended to be one by any stretch of the imagination , one of the more commonly found complaints when introduced in 2012 (I think was 2012) was the rather poor W/R but, if that's cool with you? then is all good ...;)
Jomashop have them for around $1200 +- they tend to lose value rather quickly compare to their Hydroconquest cousins and can be found pre-loved (if mint) in the $850 to $950 range , personal I prefer going gray market or pre-loved on watches at that price range.
Yes. Because I have my Seiko Diver when I go on vacation. This will be to go out and to work. Not a beater. So the WR is great for when you get rained on and wash your hands. Nothing more.

Since the AD always has discounts, they're already giving me a 15% discount. So Jomashop + shipping = $1,400 anyway. Same as AD. So I can just go to the mall next door and pick it up.
 
#17 ·
Fair enough. If a manufacturer tells me I can take it to 50 m I'll take it to 50 m (not that I've ever dived that deep). If I have a problem I'll be hassling the manufacturer!

It won't be a hassle, they just won't honor the warranty. This watch doesn't have a screw down crown.
 
#19 ·
Nah. Like I said, I dived to 17 m with a 30 m watch with no problems. I wouldn't try that with an Invickter but we're taking about Seiko and Longines. If their watch can't take 30, 50 or 100 m pressure they shouldn't - and wouldn't, IMO - rate the watch as such.

You don't need a screw down crown for water resistance, either. My Glycine is 100 m without a screw down crown. Not that it's a dive watch, but I have no doubt it can handle 100 m. Plenty of Fortis models have 100 m WR without screw down crowns, even 200 m IIRC.

So many myths about water resistance!

If you are concerned about the water resistance of one of your watches just get your watchmaker to test it (or send it to Collectible Watches Australia and we'll test it for you - shameless plug!). All good watchmakers can test to 100 m and it's a dry test so no risk of harming your watch.

And before anybody mentions the added 'dynamic' impact of moving your arm under water, that has been proven to be infinitesimally small.
 
#33 ·
I have a quartz Longines Flagship, 30m water resistance, no screw down crown and have been swimming/snorkeling with it no issues at all. Also have a Seiko 5 auto non screw crown dive watch, WR = 100m, that I have used diving to 50m and no issues, so IMO screw-down crown is NOT critical. So nice watch and don't worry andjust ensure they check gaskets when servicing as this is the only time it is opened (?) and seals might be damaged. This is why for my money radio-controlled, eco/solar drives which really don't require servicing/opening, winding etc offer the best longevity and robustness.
 
#35 ·
Yeah wow, great decision OS ! :cool: Has this straight forward, no nonsense look at first glance, but then is super exciting the way the dial, and hands team up, and capture your attention. It's a timeless design, but one that you continue to find new things to appreciate imho. Looks so well built too !!! Man oh man, congratulations to you on going for this ! Hope you really enjoy ! :thumb:
 
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